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    <p>The subsystem. So we could imagine that user would install both
      elytron and picketbox.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/12/2018 14:56, Darran Lofthouse
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      <div dir="ltr">Do you mean Elytron or the Elytron Subsystem?
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        <div>I believe yes the subsystem does have that dependency but
          it is only temporary until PicketBox is removed.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM Jean-Francois
          Denise &lt;<a href="mailto:jdenise@redhat.com"
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            <p>Darran,</p>
            <p>elytron seems to have a dependency on picketbox for jacc
              support. Am I right?<br>
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              05/12/2018 12:04, Darran Lofthouse wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Yes we can remove it entirely ;-)</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:13 PM Carlo de
                  Wolf &lt;<a href="mailto:cdewolf@redhat.com"
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                    23:15, Brian Stansberry wrote:<br>
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                        Because we want at some point to get rid-off
                        this dependency, I am <br>
                        wandering if we should really define a layer for
                        it. Could be that any <br>
                        dependency on it would imply the use of
                        legacy-security layer. Picketbox <br>
                        is implicit when legacy-security layer is
                        provisioned.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_default">The independent use is
                        the management vault. Using that shouldn't
                        require everything in the current p-b module
                        though. And arguably you could say that use case
                        means you need the vault tool and thus whatever
                        layer has it. (You don't need the vault tool
                        though, not on the server.)</div>
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                    Can we change the management vault somehow to not
                    need PicketBox at all anymore?<br>
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                    Carlo<br>
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