From bdavis at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 08:45:35 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 Thanks, Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 09:46:57 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:46:57 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: > Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. > It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it > has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 Thanks, Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev From bdavis at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 10:41:38 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Features for Discussion In-Reply-To: <490665881.7718786.1438698883991.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <977551341.7749345.1438699298660.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> I'd like to have the following features, but wanted to get everyone's feedback. 1) The ability to read in effort from the XML files. User Story: User runs Windup report and doesn't agree with the effort estimate. They would like to change the effort for a Java rule and rerun Windup, but aren't technical enough to recompile Windup. Proposed Solution: Having a utility that we could use to easily look up a property from the Windup XML configuration would be a great solution for this. That way, it makes it easy for people to modify the effort. 2) The ability to override and disable rules from the XML. User Story: A Java rule is not providing anticipated output and needs to be excluded from the report. Proposed Solution: Have a simple registry of disabled rules in the XML, where the qualified Java class is provided that needs to be disabled / skipped. Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com From robb.greathouse at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 10:44:20 2015 From: robb.greathouse at redhat.com (Robb Greathouse) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Windup 2.2 In-Reply-To: <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E1CC05287@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A5491F9@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <1460355236.9459789.1430339310046.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A55828B@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <1162727565.8589774.1433195281480.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A55839C@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <1102479275.9379962.1433257673054.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E1CC05287@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <479353854.3965075.1438699460192.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Hi, Where did you share them? Robb Greathouse Middleware Business Unit JBoss, a Division of Red Hat cellphone 505-507-4906 ----- Original Message ----- > Robb/Lincoln, > I shared the ear files again. Please let me know if you received an email to > download the files. > We need to resolve the issues with windup 2.2 so that we can use it for our > assessments. > Thanks, > Gopi > Gopi Uppala > CP & TS / Application Engineering > AT&T Services,Inc > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > From: Robb Greathouse [mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:08 AM > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > Cc: Lincoln Baxter; Windup-dev List > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > So far, no. > Robb Greathouse > Middleware Business Unit > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > cellphone 505-507-4906 > ----- Original Message ----- > > Robb, > > > I have shared files through tspace file drop. Please let me know if you > > receive the email to download it. > > > Run the files with both windup versions and see the difference. > > > Thanks, > > > Gopi > > > Gopi Uppala > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > From: Robb Greathouse [ mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com ] > > > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:48 PM > > > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > > > Cc: Lincoln Baxter; Windup-dev List > > > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > > > Hi Gopi, > > > Can we get the original app so that we can test against it and see what is > > wrong? > > > Robb Greathouse > > > Middleware Business Unit > > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > > > cellphone 505-507-4906 > > > > Robb, > > > > > > We experienced few issues with Windup 2.2 version. Here are some issues > > > we > > > found when compared to previous (0.68) version. > > > > > > 1) Too slow > > > > > > 2) Requires lot more memory to execute > > > > > > 3) In most cases, the new version is producing lot less story points. We > > > expect it to provide more story points since lot of new rules are added. > > > > > > 4) Exit is not working sometimes. > > > > > > 5) Experienced intermittent process hung problem in few cases, especially > > > with big EAR files. > > > > > > Please let me know if you would like to me setup a call to go through > > > these > > > issues or you can join Jeremy?s weekly call next Monday. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gopi > > > > > > Gopi Uppala > > > > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > > > > From: Robb Greathouse [ mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com ] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:28 PM > > > > > > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > > > > > > Cc: Jeremy Davis ( jedavis at redhat.com ) > > > > > > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Yes, 2.2 is out and available. You can download it from here > > > https://github.com/windup/windup/wiki/Install-Windup . I ran it against a > > > file as large as the biggest ear file you have. When I restricted the > > > package list to the packages of the main application it processed the > > > entire > > > app in about 20 minutes. > > > > > > Contact me if you would like to go through it together. > > > > > > Robb Greathouse > > > > > > Middleware Business Unit > > > > > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > > > > > > cellphone 505-507-4906 > > > > > > > Robb, > > > > > > > > > > Any update on windup 2.2 release? We would like to use the newest > > > > version > > > > if > > > > it is available and appreciate if you can provide a presentation. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Gopi > > > > > > > > > > Gopi Uppala > > > > > > > > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > > > > > > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > > > > > > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150804/8ece9f66/attachment-0001.html From robb.greathouse at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 11:45:07 2015 From: robb.greathouse at redhat.com (Robb Greathouse) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Windup 2.2 In-Reply-To: <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E1CC052AA@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A5491F9@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A55828B@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <1162727565.8589774.1433195281480.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E0A55839C@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <1102479275.9379962.1433257673054.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E1CC05287@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> <479353854.3965075.1438699460192.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <6C6250FA3FA159498C7FC16B30B6F67E1CC052AA@MOSTLS1MSGUSREE.ITServices.sbc.com> Message-ID: <567101630.4007938.1438703107666.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> I'll run it and get back to you. Robb Greathouse Middleware Business Unit JBoss, a Division of Red Hat cellphone 505-507-4906 ----- Original Message ----- > Our tSpace file drop was supposed to send an email with a link to download > when I shared those files. > Try this link > https://tspace.att.com/files/drops/d1fba16f-a7d7-45e0-8a38-ab6e35d47f54 > Thanks, > Gopi Uppala > CP & TS / Application Engineering > AT&T Services,Inc > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > From: Robb Greathouse [mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:44 AM > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > Cc: lbaxter at redhat.com; Windup-dev List; KLOPPENBURG, CHRISTOPHER > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > Hi, > Where did you share them? > Robb Greathouse > Middleware Business Unit > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > cellphone 505-507-4906 > ----- Original Message ----- > > Robb/Lincoln, > > > I shared the ear files again. Please let me know if you received an email > > to > > download the files. > > > We need to resolve the issues with windup 2.2 so that we can use it for our > > assessments. > > > Thanks, > > > Gopi > > > Gopi Uppala > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > From: Robb Greathouse [ mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com ] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:08 AM > > > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > > > Cc: Lincoln Baxter; Windup-dev List > > > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > > > So far, no. > > > Robb Greathouse > > > Middleware Business Unit > > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > > > cellphone 505-507-4906 > > > > Robb, > > > > > > I have shared files through tspace file drop. Please let me know if you > > > receive the email to download it. > > > > > > Run the files with both windup versions and see the difference. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gopi > > > > > > Gopi Uppala > > > > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > > > > From: Robb Greathouse [ mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com ] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:48 PM > > > > > > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > > > > > > Cc: Lincoln Baxter; Windup-dev List > > > > > > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > > > > > > Hi Gopi, > > > > > > Can we get the original app so that we can test against it and see what > > > is > > > wrong? > > > > > > Robb Greathouse > > > > > > Middleware Business Unit > > > > > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > > > > > > cellphone 505-507-4906 > > > > > > > Robb, > > > > > > > > > > We experienced few issues with Windup 2.2 version. Here are some issues > > > > we > > > > found when compared to previous (0.68) version. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Too slow > > > > > > > > > > 2) Requires lot more memory to execute > > > > > > > > > > 3) In most cases, the new version is producing lot less story points. > > > > We > > > > expect it to provide more story points since lot of new rules are > > > > added. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Exit is not working sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > 5) Experienced intermittent process hung problem in few cases, > > > > especially > > > > with big EAR files. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you would like to me setup a call to go through > > > > these > > > > issues or you can join Jeremy?s weekly call next Monday. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Gopi > > > > > > > > > > Gopi Uppala > > > > > > > > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > > > > > > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > > > > > > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > > > > > > > > From: Robb Greathouse [ mailto:robb.greathouse at redhat.com ] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: UPPALA, GOPI CHAND > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Jeremy Davis ( jedavis at redhat.com ) > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Windup 2.2 > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, 2.2 is out and available. You can download it from here > > > > https://github.com/windup/windup/wiki/Install-Windup . I ran it against > > > > a > > > > file as large as the biggest ear file you have. When I restricted the > > > > package list to the packages of the main application it processed the > > > > entire > > > > app in about 20 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > Contact me if you would like to go through it together. > > > > > > > > > > Robb Greathouse > > > > > > > > > > Middleware Business Unit > > > > > > > > > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > > > > > > > > > > cellphone 505-507-4906 > > > > > > > > > > > Robb, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any update on windup 2.2 release? We would like to use the newest > > > > > version > > > > > if > > > > > it is available and appreciate if you can provide a presentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi Uppala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CP & TS / Application Engineering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AT&T Services,Inc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 636-978-9676/314-235-4303(Tue) > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150804/408a5a21/attachment-0001.html From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 17:13:56 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:13:56 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one actually useful. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: > All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned off the > FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> > To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration > Websphere to JBoss > > Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll > have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we > should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: > > > Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. > It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it > has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150804/8bd6e460/attachment.html From jsightle at redhat.com Tue Aug 4 17:44:55 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:44:55 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> The implementation is there, someone just needs to add a couple of jars and an xml to the rulesets. This should be an easy task for someone to pick up, right? On 08/04/2015 05:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: > That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement > server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one > actually useful. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com > <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com>> wrote: > > All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned > off the FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com> | c: > 980.226.7865 <tel:980.226.7865> | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com > <mailto:lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>> > To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration > Websphere to JBoss > > Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup > we'll have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now > PRs that we should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the > next release.) > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < bdavis at redhat.com > <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com> > wrote: > > > Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link > below. It has patched an issue and added story points to the base > lab. Also, it has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & > Summit Presentation material. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com> | c: > 980.226.7865 <tel:980.226.7865> | http://www.redhat.com > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev -- Calendar Free/Busy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jsightle%40redhat.com&ctz=America/New_York -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150804/ff602991/attachment.html From mnovotny at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 07:40:56 2015 From: mnovotny at redhat.com (Marek Novotny) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:40:56 +0200 Subject: [windup-dev] Windup rule Tests with wrong xsd Message-ID: <55C1F648.2050306@redhat.com> Hi Windup devs, while creating more windup rule tests in xml files I get more and more annoyed by wrong XSD in ruletest elements. Something we have like <ruletest xmlns="http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> There is no ruletest element definition in that XSD. I think we need to create new XSD just for ruletest or to add that element into our schema at https://raw.githubusercontent.com/windup/windup/master/config-xml/schema/windup-jboss-ruleset.xsd What do you prefer and why? -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno From jsightle at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 10:03:14 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:03:14 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Windup rule Tests with wrong xsd In-Reply-To: <55C1F648.2050306@redhat.com> References: <55C1F648.2050306@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55C217A2.4070402@redhat.com> It doesn't have a schema because noone has had the time to write one yet. I would suggest adding it to a new schema rather than including it in the main one. I think the elements here are sufficiently different from the ones used in the rules themselves to warrant their own schema. On 08/05/2015 07:40 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: > Hi Windup devs, > > while creating more windup rule tests in xml files I get more and more > annoyed by wrong XSD in ruletest elements. > > Something we have like > <ruletest xmlns="http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> > > There is no ruletest element definition in that XSD. > > I think we need to create new XSD just for ruletest or to add that > element into our schema at > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/windup/windup/master/config-xml/schema/windup-jboss-ruleset.xsd > > > What do you prefer and why? > From mnovotny at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 10:58:53 2015 From: mnovotny at redhat.com (Marek Novotny) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:58:53 +0200 Subject: [windup-dev] Windup rule Tests with wrong xsd In-Reply-To: <55C217A2.4070402@redhat.com> References: <55C1F648.2050306@redhat.com> <55C217A2.4070402@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55C224AD.3000800@redhat.com> fyi I created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-710 for that. On 5.8.2015 16:03, Jess Sightler wrote: > It doesn't have a schema because noone has had the time to write one yet. > > I would suggest adding it to a new schema rather than including it in > the main one. I think the elements here are sufficiently different from > the ones used in the rules themselves to warrant their own schema. > > On 08/05/2015 07:40 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> Hi Windup devs, >> >> while creating more windup rule tests in xml files I get more and more >> annoyed by wrong XSD in ruletest elements. >> >> Something we have like >> <ruletest xmlns="http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> >> >> There is no ruletest element definition in that XSD. >> >> I think we need to create new XSD just for ruletest or to add that >> element into our schema at >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/windup/windup/master/config-xml/schema/windup-jboss-ruleset.xsd >> >> >> >> What do you prefer and why? >> > -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 12:59:35 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:59:35 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Windup rule Tests with wrong xsd In-Reply-To: <55C224AD.3000800@redhat.com> References: <55C1F648.2050306@redhat.com> <55C217A2.4070402@redhat.com> <55C224AD.3000800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4G6RxRSKQdeCTnSbN5NzXu=1q58J3gKCBACVdKkdkfMMQ@mail.gmail.com> Agreed. I think we should create a new schema for this. We really don't want this to be in the rules schema itself (that would add a lot of potential confusion to rule-authors who are just getting started.) E.g. We don't actually test the rules automatically in Windup, it's really just part of our build at the moment. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote: > fyi I created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-710 for that. > > On 5.8.2015 16:03, Jess Sightler wrote: > > It doesn't have a schema because noone has had the time to write one yet. > > > > I would suggest adding it to a new schema rather than including it in > > the main one. I think the elements here are sufficiently different from > > the ones used in the rules themselves to warrant their own schema. > > > > On 08/05/2015 07:40 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: > >> Hi Windup devs, > >> > >> while creating more windup rule tests in xml files I get more and more > >> annoyed by wrong XSD in ruletest elements. > >> > >> Something we have like > >> <ruletest xmlns="http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> > >> > >> There is no ruletest element definition in that XSD. > >> > >> I think we need to create new XSD just for ruletest or to add that > >> element into our schema at > >> > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/windup/windup/master/config-xml/schema/windup-jboss-ruleset.xsd > >> > >> > >> > >> What do you prefer and why? > >> > > > > > -- > Marek Novotny > -- > WFK and Seam Product Lead > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o. > Purkynova 99 > 612 45 Brno > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150805/f3b322e4/attachment-0001.html From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 13:00:40 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:00:40 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4EkNRt1katB6rgqG-cGEv-t+3LnTQu0a2v7hYHdDqVHsg@mail.gmail.com> Jess. Could you perhaps add one jar as an example so that others can follow and do the rest? I think from what you showed me, it looks very simple. Just need to see one case of how it works so it can be expanded. Thoughts? Thanks, Lincoln On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com> wrote: > The implementation is there, someone just needs to add a couple of jars > and an xml to the rulesets. > > This should be an easy task for someone to pick up, right? > > > On 08/04/2015 05:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: > > That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement > server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one > actually useful. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: > >> All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned off >> the FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. >> >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >> http://www.redhat.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" < <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration >> Websphere to JBoss >> >> Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll >> have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we >> should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < <bdavis at redhat.com> >> bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: >> >> >> Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. >> It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it >> has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 >> >> Thanks, >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >> http://www.redhat.com >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing listwindup-dev at lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > -- > Calendar Free/Busy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jsightle%40redhat.com&ctz=America/New_York > > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150805/24736bdc/attachment.html From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 13:09:50 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:09:50 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <CAEp_U4EkNRt1katB6rgqG-cGEv-t+3LnTQu0a2v7hYHdDqVHsg@mail.gmail.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <3951562.179.1438263414301.JavaMail.dhodge@dhodge.csb> <1911619611.7572607.1438692250854.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EkNRt1katB6rgqG-cGEv-t+3LnTQu0a2v7hYHdDqVHsg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4GHz6apqcog783ooJ0=6x4ALWFZL=QKtTPP+agg43_GQQ@mail.gmail.com> What Jess showed me was this: Basically create a file named ***.metadata.xml and it will be picked up. That file needs to specify a technology and a list of JAR files *JavaClassBindingStatusTest.technology.metadata.xml* <?xml version="1.0"?><java-technology-metadata xmlns=" http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> <technology id="fakeserver"/> <additional-classpath>lib/commons-io-2.1.jar</additional-classpath></ java-technology-metadata> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com > wrote: > Jess. > > Could you perhaps add one jar as an example so that others can follow and > do the rest? I think from what you showed me, it looks very simple. Just > need to see one case of how it works so it can be expanded. > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Lincoln > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com> wrote: > >> The implementation is there, someone just needs to add a couple of jars >> and an xml to the rulesets. >> >> This should be an easy task for someone to pick up, right? >> >> >> On 08/04/2015 05:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >> >> That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement >> server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one >> actually useful. >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: >> >>> All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned off >>> the FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. >>> >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>> http://www.redhat.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" < <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration >>> Websphere to JBoss >>> >>> Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll >>> have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we >>> should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < <bdavis at redhat.com> >>> bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: >>> >>> >>> Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. >>> It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it >>> has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>> http://www.redhat.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lincoln Baxter, III >>> http://ocpsoft.org >>> "Simpler is better." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing listwindup-dev at lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> >> -- >> Calendar Free/Busy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jsightle%40redhat.com&ctz=America/New_York >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150805/f1bac090/attachment-0001.html From bdavis at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 13:28:45 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <CAEp_U4GHz6apqcog783ooJ0=6x4ALWFZL=QKtTPP+agg43_GQQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EkNRt1katB6rgqG-cGEv-t+3LnTQu0a2v7hYHdDqVHsg@mail.gmail.com> <CAEp_U4GHz6apqcog783ooJ0=6x4ALWFZL=QKtTPP+agg43_GQQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1186719906.8682779.1438795725122.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Hmm, so I am open to the idea. In order to have this, would we pre-package the Java EE 5 and 6 classes as a package that gets installed to Windup somewhere? Where does that package go to get picked up? Thanks, Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Brad Davis" <bdavis at redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:09:50 PM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss What Jess showed me was this: Basically create a file named ***.metadata.xml and it will be picked up. That file needs to specify a technology and a list of JAR files *JavaClassBindingStatusTest.technology.metadata.xml* <?xml version="1.0"?><java-technology-metadata xmlns=" http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> <technology id="fakeserver"/> <additional-classpath>lib/commons-io-2.1.jar</additional-classpath></ java-technology-metadata> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com > wrote: > Jess. > > Could you perhaps add one jar as an example so that others can follow and > do the rest? I think from what you showed me, it looks very simple. Just > need to see one case of how it works so it can be expanded. > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Lincoln > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com> wrote: > >> The implementation is there, someone just needs to add a couple of jars >> and an xml to the rulesets. >> >> This should be an easy task for someone to pick up, right? >> >> >> On 08/04/2015 05:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >> >> That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement >> server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one >> actually useful. >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: >> >>> All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned off >>> the FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. >>> >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>> http://www.redhat.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" < <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration >>> Websphere to JBoss >>> >>> Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll >>> have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we >>> should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < <bdavis at redhat.com> >>> bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: >>> >>> >>> Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. >>> It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it >>> has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>> http://www.redhat.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lincoln Baxter, III >>> http://ocpsoft.org >>> "Simpler is better." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing listwindup-dev at lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> >> -- >> Calendar Free/Busy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jsightle%40redhat.com&ctz=America/New_York >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." From jsightle at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 21:37:21 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:37:21 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss In-Reply-To: <1186719906.8682779.1438795725122.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <1635761704.16809237.1434742040672.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <128760698.7575997.1438692335301.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4GtUT-8Y1bZ=BjcqwutXyEcGBC7wQfYj+uw1e8=poM8Pg@mail.gmail.com> <1458404005.7716524.1438698677977.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EHDYuY9qNA-btrw+ffHpn4SeB5tB_Mrb6muXUoroRqmg@mail.gmail.com> <55C13257.6040601@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EkNRt1katB6rgqG-cGEv-t+3LnTQu0a2v7hYHdDqVHsg@mail.gmail.com> <CAEp_U4GHz6apqcog783ooJ0=6x4ALWFZL=QKtTPP+agg43_GQQ@mail.gmail.com> <1186719906.8682779.1438795725122.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55C2BA51.2030509@redhat.com> Also, I found a bug in this today that was causing it to mark every type reference as "unbound" in some cases. Basically the JDT compiler was aborting and refusing to provide bindings. I have a workaround and I'll try to send a PR for that tomorrow. Hopefully I can put together a sample of the API support in the windup-rulesets repo tomorrow as well. On 08/05/2015 01:28 PM, Brad Davis wrote: > Hmm, so I am open to the idea. In order to have this, would we pre-package the Java EE 5 and 6 classes as a package that gets installed to Windup somewhere? Where does that package go to get picked up? > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> > To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Brad Davis" <bdavis at redhat.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:09:50 PM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration Websphere to JBoss > > What Jess showed me was this: > > Basically create a file named ***.metadata.xml and it will be picked up. > That file needs to specify a technology and a list of JAR files > > *JavaClassBindingStatusTest.technology.metadata.xml* > > <?xml version="1.0"?><java-technology-metadata xmlns=" > http://windup.jboss.org/schema/jboss-ruleset"> <technology id="fakeserver"/> > <additional-classpath>lib/commons-io-2.1.jar</additional-classpath></ > java-technology-metadata> > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com >> wrote: >> Jess. >> >> Could you perhaps add one jar as an example so that others can follow and >> do the rest? I think from what you showed me, it looks very simple. Just >> need to see one case of how it works so it can be expanded. >> Thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Lincoln >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com> wrote: >> >>> The implementation is there, someone just needs to add a couple of jars >>> and an xml to the rulesets. >>> >>> This should be an easy task for someone to pick up, right? >>> >>> >>> On 08/04/2015 05:13 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >>> >>> That makes sense. It's way too noisy right now. We need to implement >>> server profiles / classloader content lists in order to make that one >>> actually useful. >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: >>> >>>> All of the changes are in pull requests, but for the lab, I turned off >>>> the FindUnboundJavaReferencesRuleProvider for the time being. >>>> >>>> Brad Davis >>>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>>> http://www.redhat.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Lincoln Baxter, III" < <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>>> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> >>>> To: "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:46:57 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Fwd: ATTENTION: JBoss Windup / Migration >>>> Websphere to JBoss >>>> >>>> Brad, this is fantastic. When we release a new version of Windup we'll >>>> have to get it in there. I assume all of your fixes are now PRs that we >>>> should be merging in soon? (Thus they will be in the next release.) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Brad Davis < <bdavis at redhat.com> >>>> bdavis at redhat.com > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Team, I've updated the Windup Lab material, available at the link below. >>>> It has patched an issue and added story points to the base lab. Also, it >>>> has a refreshed Windup build, the Summit Lab & Summit Presentation material. >>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9KZqeSjffuUWXZQUUJROUI2ME0 >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Brad Davis >>>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | <http://www.redhat.com> >>>> http://www.redhat.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> windup-dev mailing list >>>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lincoln Baxter, III >>>> http://ocpsoft.org >>>> "Simpler is better." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> windup-dev mailing list >>>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> windup-dev mailing list >>>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lincoln Baxter, III >>> http://ocpsoft.org >>> "Simpler is better." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing listwindup-dev at lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Calendar Free/Busy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jsightle%40redhat.com&ctz=America/New_York >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> > > From bdavis at redhat.com Sun Aug 9 18:40:08 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <1344207040.10407161.1439159476867.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Jess, I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? Thanks, Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com From mnovotny at redhat.com Mon Aug 24 04:06:12 2015 From: mnovotny at redhat.com (Marek Novotny) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:06:12 +0200 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> Brad, just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. (those are described here http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: > Jess, > I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? > > I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. > > Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno From bdavis at redhat.com Mon Aug 24 09:27:59 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> Message-ID: <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM Brad, just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. (those are described here http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: > Jess, > I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? > > I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. > > Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? > > Thanks, > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 17:13:50 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:13:50 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4Hxwi7kWWuUYdVmHirerZe7jTn2xRcs1BRrA+rS_J5tZQ@mail.gmail.com> I am in favor of this idea. It will require some coordination with those teams to ensure they deliver this to us with each release. On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com> wrote: > Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms > go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant > dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target > Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> > To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM > > Brad, > > just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP > BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. > (those are described here > http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) > > But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? > > https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts > > > On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: > > Jess, > > I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or > dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? > That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to > generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? > > > > I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would > have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for > a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the > assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out > there. > > > > Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? > > > > Thanks, > > Brad Davis > > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > windup-dev mailing list > > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > > -- > Marek Novotny > -- > WFK and Seam Product Lead > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o. > Purkynova 99 > 612 45 Brno > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150825/1a9f1468/attachment-0001.html From jsightle at redhat.com Tue Aug 25 21:45:13 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:45:13 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a single bom like this exist for EAP? On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: > Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> > To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM > > Brad, > > just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP > BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. > (those are described here > http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) > > But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? > https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts > > > On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: >> Jess, >> I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? >> >> I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. >> >> Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? >> >> Thanks, >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> > From bdavis at redhat.com Tue Aug 25 22:13:04 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> I think they have the various versions here: http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/ We would need the engineering teams to tell us which one... there are lots of boms in there with various options. Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Sightler" <jsightle at redhat.com> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:45:13 PM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a single bom like this exist for EAP? On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: > Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> > To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM > > Brad, > > just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP > BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. > (those are described here > http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) > > But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? > https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts > > > On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: >> Jess, >> I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? >> >> I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. >> >> Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? >> >> Thanks, >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> > _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev From jsightle at redhat.com Tue Aug 25 22:58:09 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:58:09 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55DD2B41.1030805@redhat.com> Hmm, maybe we could use the jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/ <http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/> one. I didn't remember that being an option before. On 08/25/2015 10:13 PM, Brad Davis wrote: > I think they have the various versions here: > http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/ > > We would need the engineering teams to tell us which one... there are lots of boms in there with various options. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jess Sightler" <jsightle at redhat.com> > To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:45:13 PM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM > > I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a > single bom like this exist for EAP? > > On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: >> Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. >> >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> >> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM >> >> Brad, >> >> just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP >> BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. >> (those are described here >> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) >> >> But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? >> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts >> >> >> On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: >>> Jess, >>> I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? >>> >>> I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. >>> >>> Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150825/74d457a5/attachment.html From bdavis at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 00:15:34 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <55DD2B41.1030805@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD2B41.1030805@redhat.com> Message-ID: <79A6DF79-ACDE-4592-8DA9-EF7EB8F101E2@redhat.com> I think you need the one under the eap folder. The others don't map versions correctly. > jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all That one only has version 1.0.4. http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/eap/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-transactions/ That seems to have the right versions mapping to releases but not the same number of options (such as -all). Brad Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com> wrote: > > Hmm, maybe we could use the jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/ one. I didn't remember that being an option before. > >> On 08/25/2015 10:13 PM, Brad Davis wrote: >> I think they have the various versions here: >> http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/ >> >> We would need the engineering teams to tell us which one... there are lots of boms in there with various options. >> >> Brad Davis >> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jess Sightler" <jsightle at redhat.com> >> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:45:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM >> >> I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a >> single bom like this exist for EAP? >> >> On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: >>> Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. >>> >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> >>> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM >>> >>> Brad, >>> >>> just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP >>> BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. >>> (those are described here >>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) >>> >>> But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? >>> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts >>> >>> >>> On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: >>>> Jess, >>>> I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? >>>> >>>> I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. >>>> >>>> Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Brad Davis >>>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>>> Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> windup-dev mailing list >>>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150826/36ac8190/attachment-0001.html From mnovotny at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 02:54:00 2015 From: mnovotny at redhat.com (Marek Novotny) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:54:00 +0200 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <CAEp_U4Hxwi7kWWuUYdVmHirerZe7jTn2xRcs1BRrA+rS_J5tZQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4Hxwi7kWWuUYdVmHirerZe7jTn2xRcs1BRrA+rS_J5tZQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55DD6288.2000304@redhat.com> Yep, I know that they (productization) provide such BOMs in almost all products, so that is just a matter of getting from every product correct GAV of the BOM to have it. On 25.8.2015 23:13, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: > I am in favor of this idea. It will require some coordination with those > teams to ensure they deliver this to us with each release. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Brad Davis <bdavis at redhat.com > <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com>> wrote: > > Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other > platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has > the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn > that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff > easier, I think. > > Brad Davis > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > Email: bdavis at redhat.com <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com> | c: > 980.226.7865 <tel:980.226.7865> | http://www.redhat.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com <mailto:mnovotny at redhat.com>> > To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM > Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM > > Brad, > > just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP > BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. > (those are described here > http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) > > But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? > https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts > > > On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: > > Jess, > > I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM > or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the > classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could > have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that > is needed for your classloading? > > > > I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess > would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss > EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to > create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just > wanted to throw the idea out there. > > > > Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? > > > > Thanks, > > Brad Davis > > Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting > > Email: bdavis at redhat.com <mailto:bdavis at redhat.com> | c: > 980.226.7865 <tel:980.226.7865> | http://www.redhat.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > windup-dev mailing list > > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > > -- > Marek Novotny > -- > WFK and Seam Product Lead > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o. > Purkynova 99 > 612 45 Brno > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno From jsightle at redhat.com Wed Aug 26 12:24:11 2015 From: jsightle at redhat.com (Jess Sightler) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:24:11 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <79A6DF79-ACDE-4592-8DA9-EF7EB8F101E2@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD2B41.1030805@redhat.com> <79A6DF79-ACDE-4592-8DA9-EF7EB8F101E2@redhat.com> Message-ID: <55DDE82B.4050001@redhat.com> On 08/26/2015 12:15 AM, Brad Davis wrote: > I think you need the one under the eap folder. The others don't map > versions correctly. > >> jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all >> <http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/> > > > That one only has version 1.0.4. > > http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/eap/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-transactions/ > > That seems to have the right versions mapping to releases but not the > same number of options (such as -all). > Oh, that's right. I don't think there is a single bom that is comprehensive. Perhaps we could pull in more than one? > Brad > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Jess Sightler <jsightle at redhat.com > <mailto:jsightle at redhat.com>> wrote: > >> Hmm, maybe we could use the jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/ >> <http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/> >> one. I didn't remember that being an option before. >> >> On 08/25/2015 10:13 PM, Brad Davis wrote: >>> I think they have the various versions here: >>> http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/ >>> >>> We would need the engineering teams to tell us which one... there are lots of boms in there with various options. >>> >>> Brad Davis >>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>> Email:bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 |http://www.redhat.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jess Sightler"<jsightle at redhat.com> >>> To:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:45:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM >>> >>> I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a >>> single bom like this exist for EAP? >>> >>> On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: >>>> Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. >>>> >>>> Brad Davis >>>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>>> Email:bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 |http://www.redhat.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marek Novotny"<mnovotny at redhat.com> >>>> To:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM >>>> >>>> Brad, >>>> >>>> just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP >>>> BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. >>>> (those are described here >>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom) >>>> >>>> But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? >>>> https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: >>>>> Jess, >>>>> I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? >>>>> >>>>> I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brad Davis >>>>> Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting >>>>> Email:bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 |http://www.redhat.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> windup-dev mailing list >>>>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> windup-dev mailing list >>> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150826/6237b5b5/attachment.html From bdavis at redhat.com Thu Aug 27 13:37:16 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM In-Reply-To: <55DDE82B.4050001@redhat.com> References: <827750116.10407779.1439160008315.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DAD074.3090006@redhat.com> <658419898.17708734.1440422879289.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD1A29.8050409@redhat.com> <115736677.18765379.1440555184771.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <55DD2B41.1030805@redhat.com> <79A6DF79-ACDE-4592-8DA9-EF7EB8F101E2@redhat.com> <55DDE82B.4050001@redhat.com> Message-ID: <2138690272.19745125.1440697036824.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> I think that could be possible. Once we get the model defined, we can ask the teams to follow it moving forward. One interesting side affect of this: we can then say "this target is based on this BOM --- include this BOM in your project as Provided!" Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Sightler" <jsightle at redhat.com> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:24:11 PM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM On 08/26/2015 12:15 AM, Brad Davis wrote: I think you need the one under the eap folder. The others don't map versions correctly. jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all That one only has version 1.0.4. http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/eap/jboss-javaee-6.0-with-transactions/ That seems to have the right versions mapping to releases but not the same number of options (such as -all). Oh, that's right. I don't think there is a single bom that is comprehensive. Perhaps we could pull in more than one? Brad Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Jess Sightler < jsightle at redhat.com > wrote: Hmm, maybe we could use the jboss-javaee-6.0-with-all/ one. I didn't remember that being an option before. On 08/25/2015 10:13 PM, Brad Davis wrote: I think they have the various versions here: http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/org/jboss/bom/ We would need the engineering teams to tell us which one... there are lots of boms in there with various options. Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Sightler" <jsightle at redhat.com> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:45:13 PM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM I agree... this is the best way to do it if it is feasible. Does such a single bom like this exist for EAP? On 08/24/2015 09:27 AM, Brad Davis wrote: Right; the idea being that when EAP or BRMS or one of the other platforms go GA, they could have a BOM they provide to us that has the relevant dependencies they are exposing, and we could then turn that into the Target Technology in Windup. It would make handoff easier, I think. Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marek Novotny" <mnovotny at redhat.com> To: windup-dev at lists.jboss.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:06:12 AM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] JBoss BOM Brad, just to clarify more what you are writing about JBoss (developer) EAP BOMs include just Java EE APIs artifacts + some JBoss implementations. (those are described here http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!sys_type=jbossdeveloper_bom ) But if you need a stack then you might mean EAP 6 supported BOM ? https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~eap6-supported-artifacts On 10.8.2015 00:40, Brad Davis wrote: Jess, I wanted to see whether there would be a way to take a Maven BOM or dependencies and generate the packaging needed for the classloader stuff? That way, when a platform is released, we could have a reusable way to generate the JBoss Windup target stuff that is needed for your classloading? I know for example that we have a JBoss EAP BOM that I would guess would have all of the dependencies for Java EE and the base JBoss EAP modules for a given JBoss version. Could be a custom plugin to create your XML + the assembly or dependency plugin probably. Just wanted to throw the idea out there. Is there a sample out & sample docs you can link me to? Thanks, Brad Davis Senior Manager, Red Hat Consulting Email: bdavis at redhat.com | c: 980.226.7865 | http://www.redhat.com _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev From mbriskar at redhat.com Fri Aug 28 09:49:32 2015 From: mbriskar at redhat.com (Matej Briskar) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules In-Reply-To: <836345137.14908331.1440769395205.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Hello team, we had a discussion with Rodney+Lincoln about a possibility to create educational videos about creating Windup rules (rule phases, cath-all rules, all the conditions, all the operations, java rules). This would be mainly to save time spent teaching how to write rules and instead, link people to these videos. Or is webinar going to cover this topic well enough? M. From lincolnbaxter at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 14:34:59 2015 From: lincolnbaxter at gmail.com (Lincoln Baxter, III) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:34:59 -0400 Subject: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules In-Reply-To: <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> References: <836345137.14908331.1440769395205.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Message-ID: <CAEp_U4EyEEO_SHwE3vq6U3O1UEh+FOAYgL+ykCR7qTqkE4WCQw@mail.gmail.com> I think that having some short ~5m videos explaining how to write a few types of rules in Windup would be a very useful thing to have. We could put it on the website and in the docs. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matej Briskar <mbriskar at redhat.com> wrote: > Hello team, > we had a discussion with Rodney+Lincoln about a possibility to create > educational videos about creating Windup rules (rule phases, cath-all > rules, all the conditions, all the operations, java rules). > This would be mainly to save time spent teaching how to write rules and > instead, link people to these videos. > > Or is webinar going to cover this topic well enough? > > M. > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/windup-dev/attachments/20150828/4cbf99ca/attachment.html From mnovotny at redhat.com Mon Aug 31 03:04:55 2015 From: mnovotny at redhat.com (Marek Novotny) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:04:55 +0200 Subject: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules In-Reply-To: <CAEp_U4EyEEO_SHwE3vq6U3O1UEh+FOAYgL+ykCR7qTqkE4WCQw@mail.gmail.com> References: <836345137.14908331.1440769395205.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EyEEO_SHwE3vq6U3O1UEh+FOAYgL+ykCR7qTqkE4WCQw@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55E3FC97.5070104@redhat.com> +1 for short basic rule creation concepts as explaining more than basics would be a looong demo ;) On 28.8.2015 20:34, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: > I think that having some short ~5m videos explaining how to write a few > types of rules in Windup would be a very useful thing to have. We could > put it on the website and in the docs. > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matej Briskar <mbriskar at redhat.com > <mailto:mbriskar at redhat.com>> wrote: > > Hello team, > we had a discussion with Rodney+Lincoln about a possibility to > create educational videos about creating Windup rules (rule phases, > cath-all rules, all the conditions, all the operations, java rules). > This would be mainly to save time spent teaching how to write rules > and instead, link people to these videos. > > Or is webinar going to cover this topic well enough? > > M. > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > > > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > -- Marek Novotny -- WFK and Seam Product Lead Red Hat Czech s.r.o. Purkynova 99 612 45 Brno From bdavis at redhat.com Mon Aug 31 08:34:13 2015 From: bdavis at redhat.com (Brad Davis) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules In-Reply-To: <55E3FC97.5070104@redhat.com> References: <836345137.14908331.1440769395205.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EyEEO_SHwE3vq6U3O1UEh+FOAYgL+ykCR7qTqkE4WCQw@mail.gmail.com> <55E3FC97.5070104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <30A8E523-92AF-4833-ACAE-54E511B20204@redhat.com> I have a techtalk Friday I plan to cover the basics and also some Java rule concepts. The plan Is to record it. If you all contribute ideas for what'd you'd like to see covered, I'll try and make sure it makes it in. Brad Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote: > > +1 for short basic rule creation concepts as explaining more than basics > would be a looong demo ;) > >> On 28.8.2015 20:34, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >> I think that having some short ~5m videos explaining how to write a few >> types of rules in Windup would be a very useful thing to have. We could >> put it on the website and in the docs. >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matej Briskar <mbriskar at redhat.com >> <mailto:mbriskar at redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello team, >> we had a discussion with Rodney+Lincoln about a possibility to >> create educational videos about creating Windup rules (rule phases, >> cath-all rules, all the conditions, all the operations, java rules). >> This would be mainly to save time spent teaching how to write rules >> and instead, link people to these videos. >> >> Or is webinar going to cover this topic well enough? >> >> M. >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > -- > Marek Novotny > -- > WFK and Seam Product Lead > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o. > Purkynova 99 > 612 45 Brno > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev From mbriskar at redhat.com Mon Aug 31 10:34:44 2015 From: mbriskar at redhat.com (Matej Briskar) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules In-Reply-To: <30A8E523-92AF-4833-ACAE-54E511B20204@redhat.com> References: <836345137.14908331.1440769395205.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <1856572686.14912510.1440769772066.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> <CAEp_U4EyEEO_SHwE3vq6U3O1UEh+FOAYgL+ykCR7qTqkE4WCQw@mail.gmail.com> <55E3FC97.5070104@redhat.com> <30A8E523-92AF-4833-ACAE-54E511B20204@redhat.com> Message-ID: <977112888.15584811.1441031684294.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> Hey Brad, I was mainly thinking about covering it in such a detail, that almost nobody would have a need to contact us with some misunderstanding of how to write some specific rules. Hopefully rules are stable enough and they are not going to change much in the future. I don't know if you have enough time for all these things, but these are all the things I can think of that are needed to help you keep smiling face while writing the rules: a) List of all the conditions (File, FileContent, XmlFile, JavaClass) b) List of the main operations (Hint, Classification, XSLT). LineItem is not that much important c) Rule phases (at least MigrationPhase + PostMigrationPhase), so they understand what are catch-all rules and why they need to be in a separate phase. d) How to write a rule test e) Maybe tell them about a potential of parameters {} and where they can put it M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Davis" <bdavis at redhat.com> To: mnovotny at redhat.com, "Windup-dev List" <windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:34:13 PM Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Educational video for creating windup rules I have a techtalk Friday I plan to cover the basics and also some Java rule concepts. The plan Is to record it. If you all contribute ideas for what'd you'd like to see covered, I'll try and make sure it makes it in. Brad Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote: > > +1 for short basic rule creation concepts as explaining more than basics > would be a looong demo ;) > >> On 28.8.2015 20:34, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >> I think that having some short ~5m videos explaining how to write a few >> types of rules in Windup would be a very useful thing to have. We could >> put it on the website and in the docs. >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matej Briskar <mbriskar at redhat.com >> <mailto:mbriskar at redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello team, >> we had a discussion with Rodney+Lincoln about a possibility to >> create educational videos about creating Windup rules (rule phases, >> cath-all rules, all the conditions, all the operations, java rules). >> This would be mainly to save time spent teaching how to write rules >> and instead, link people to these videos. >> >> Or is webinar going to cover this topic well enough? >> >> M. >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:windup-dev at lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> windup-dev mailing list >> windup-dev at lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev > > > -- > Marek Novotny > -- > WFK and Seam Product Lead > > Red Hat Czech s.r.o. > Purkynova 99 > 612 45 Brno > _______________________________________________ > windup-dev mailing list > windup-dev at lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev _______________________________________________ windup-dev mailing list windup-dev at lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/windup-dev