[aerogear-dev] 20 minute JBDS Demo with OpenShift Enterprise/OnPremise

Burr Sutter bsutter at redhat.com
Tue Nov 13 16:28:57 EST 2012


Thank you - I will be able to test late tonight or tomorrow morning.

JBDS6 does not run on my mac so I have to get back to my Windows machine to test.


On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:

> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the arq-jbossas-remote profile on project creation . Created html5 project now builds OOTB... until you manually activate that profile.
> Please refresh the project examples section in JBoss Central or restart your workspace.
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> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:41:32, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>> Thanks!
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>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>> I'm stuck with the kids for the next 3hrs. After that, it'll take me 10 min to get it fixed.
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>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:05:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>> How quickly could this get fixed for me?  I have a demo this Thursday but currently unable to use JBDS6 due to this one bug.
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>>>> There may be other bugs behind this one - JBDS6 is not the most "stable" but the HTML5 archetype is a show-stopper for me right now.
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>>>> It fails for AS7 and EAP6 - and I won't be able to "stop the recording", fix the problem and restart the recording.
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>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 15:22:02, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>> Is that a server-side fix? Or something that requires a new build/update?
>>>>> Server side :-)
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>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>> Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:38:38, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hey Fred/Snjezana,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Burr pointed me to JBIDE-12987 which indicates the html5 archetype currently deployed in JBDS is broken.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Shit happens - but I Would like to be sure to understand where the culprit is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Did this issue happen because:
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>>>>>>>> A) we added an archetype without testing it to projectexamples.xml
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>>>>>>>> B) the jdf-stack side is referring to a broken html5 archetype ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes. Actually the archetype referenced in stacks.yml is broken when you activate the arq-jbossas-remote profile and you're in enterprise mode.
>>>>>>> The profile activation is done in projectexample.xm, which means we can decide to, temporarily, not activate that profile when creating the project. All we need is updating that example descriptor.
>>>>>>> We'd turn the profile back on once a fixed archetype is referenced in stacks
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>>>>>>>> ...in both cases we need to improve our reaction/QA work on this (we as in jboss wide - not just us from tools)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Before I hunt down the rightful owner could you enlighten me on wether its A or B from above ? (and if you got other info why it stopped working and suggestion to avoid it would be great)
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>>>>>>>> /max
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>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately I am too busy multi-tasking to really nail this done.
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>>>>>>>>> The HTML5 archetype on JBoss Central in JBDS6 is broken which is
>>>>>>>>> pretty critical to my demos as well.
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>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-12987
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:21 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2012 04:24 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I seem to get a number of "would you like to wait" messages.
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>>>>>>>>> so you get these when the wizard reports it's waiting for the app to
>>>>>>>>> become ready? if yes, then this is utterly weird. Applications
>>>>>>>>> should follow the naming scheme:
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>>>>>>>>> http://<application-name>-<domainname>.rhcloud.com
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>>>>>>>>> So if you put openshift.redhat.com to your hosts file, then resolving
>>>>>>>>> your apps should not get affected. Can you provide any further
>>>>>>>>> insights/details?
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:33 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2012 08:17 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> This seems to not be working for me
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>>>>>>>>> what are the symptoms?
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>>>>>>>>> You could alternatively run a liveCD in localhost and have some more
>>>>>>>>> funky hosts entry. The drawback is that the default liveCD does no
>>>>>>>>> dynamic DNS-update so you'd have to add you app-namees into hosts,
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>>>>>>>>> - for now I will simply try to get JBDS6 to work with OpenShift
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>>>>>>>>> And if that acts up, fall back to JBDS5 + OpenShift Hosted - and
>>>>>>>>> hopefully the audience won't "see" it. :-)
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>>>>>>>>> This is a pre-recorded demo/webinar and I am not sure if there is
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:20 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2012 05:26 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> I have to script, test and record a 20 minute demo of JBDS (ideally
>>>>>>>>> 6) with OSE next week (around Nov 14 or 15)
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>>>>>>>>> 1) My plan is to use one of the hosted versions of OpenShift like
>>>>>>>>> openshift.redhat.com or int.openshift.redhat.com and perhaps play
>>>>>>>>> some games with the hosts file on my Windows machine - do make it
>>>>>>>>> look like " openshift.mycompany.com " or something like that, what
>>>>>>>>> do you think - might that work?
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>>>>>>>>> so yes it works when using some funky hack in hosts:
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>>>>>>>>> I added "54.243.111.12 openshift.local" to my hosts file and things
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>>>>>>>>> 2) Do you have a document that describes how to setup and debug? With
>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes, I will likely have enough time to show off debugging in
>>>>>>>>> the cloud
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>>>>>>>>> Here is my list:
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>>>>>>>>> a- Using the HTML5 archetype for JBoss Central
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>>>>>>>>> b- Displayed in Mobile Browser Sim
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>>>>>>>>> c- Might even consider making an edit to the screen to so the viewer
>>>>>>>>> sees some "coding"
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>>>>>>>>> d- Assuming my account is already pre-established, will use the
>>>>>>>>> OpenShift Wizard on JBoss Central to push up my app - I will need
>>>>>>>>> things to talk about while waiting - I will use a pre-establised
>>>>>>>>> account because OSE has not yet figured out how they will enlist new
>>>>>>>>> developers - it won't be like the current self-provisioning model
>>>>>>>>> which creates a RHN account.
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>>>>>>>>> e- Now the app is "up in the cloud" - perhaps hit it with a real
>>>>>>>>> mobile device (I have a special camera for that)
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>>>>>>>>> f- Add a debug break point and step through some things in the HTML5
>>>>>>>>> kitchensink app...in the cloud
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>>>>>>>>> g- I would love to show "auto-scaling" but I am not sure how to make
>>>>>>>>> that work - or if anyone has every demo'd that before
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>>>>>>>>> h- show off remote log access via OpenShift Explorer
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