[aerogear-dev] Push!
Burr Sutter
bsutter at redhat.com
Tue Sep 18 08:44:16 EDT 2012
On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:31 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Glen Daniels <glen at thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey team,
>>
>> So thinking a bit about the Android roadmap, and realizing that for
>> either the Android or the iOS libs to work well (i.e. without killing
>> the batteries of end-users' phones), we're going to need to do push
>> integration.
>>
>> A quick recap - if we want to know when data on the backend has been
>> updated without a manual "refresh" button, we either have to 1) poll
>> (which sucks, uses network resources, and doesn't work in the background
>> on iOS devices) or 2) use push (for which there are specific APIs for
>> Android and iOS, and there are also "higher level" push service
>> providers such as Urban Airship).
>
> AFAIK the (apple) push payload size is limited, so it will be mostly
> some combination of push/poll.
> The 'push' tells the app: Some data has changed, go online and 'pull' it.
+1
>
> IMO another option would be WebSocket, when the app is online. If it's
> offline, of course the message would not make it to the device, here
> comes 'push' in again.
+1 - websocket is valuable for the "online" scenario - but does not address the "offline" (or app turned off) scenario
>
>
>>
>> Yes, polling can be used as a fallback, but for any serious application
>> that needs live or background updates, push is the only way to go. Yes,
>> this means another coupling point to "our" server (or at least
>> contract-compatible servers).
>
> Right, but not sure if it's that bad if we make this available as a
> 'somewhat' generic server side component, to be deployed to JBoss
> (never dealt with push)
>
> -M
>
>>
>> Just wanting to make sure that this is on everyone's radar.
>>
>> Thoughts/comments?
>>
>> --Glen
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