[cdi-dev] JMS 2.1: Proposal to allow any CDI managed bean in a Java EE application to listen for JMS messages

Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibucau at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 12:35:18 EDT 2015


well was thinking to both but I see it really nice to not rely only on
annotation - and aligned with most specs - since sometimes you just want to
either be able to rely on a loop or a custom config to register your
listeners. Annotations are too rigid for such cases.


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2015-08-25 18:25 GMT+02:00 Nigel Deakin <nigel.deakin at oracle.com>:

> John,
>
> On 25/08/2015 16:31, John D. Ament wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:51 AM Nigel Deakin <nigel.deakin at oracle.com
> <mailto:nigel.deakin at oracle.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 24/08/2015 21:24, John D. Ament wrote:
> >      >
> >      > Hi Nigel!
> >      >
> >      > Glad to hear from you.  Was wondering, is there a way to manually
> register listeners?
> >
> >     The current proposal is is for the bean to start listening just as
> soon as it is created (by CDI), and for it to stop
> >     listening just before it is destroyed (by CDI).
> >
> >     As you suggesting that CDI would create the listener, but the
> application would call some method to tell it to start
> >     listening? or did you have something else in mind?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm, this would mean that only app scoped beans would apply?
> > It might be better to scan for the annotations and use that to start up
> the listener?
>
> I was just making a guess at what you might had in mind by "manually
> register listeners".
>
> Nigel
>
>
> >
> >       > It would be great if this could
> >      > be leveraged in a CDI SE environment as well as EE environment.
> >
> >     I see that work is underway for CDI 2.0 to define how CDI might work
> in a Java SE environment. I don't see why a similar
> >     portable extension could not be created for use in Java SE. Since
> there would be no need to support Java EE behaviour
> >     such as transactions this could be built directly on top of the JMS
> provider's Java SE client. No need to use a resource
> >     adapter. However since the @JMSListener and @JMSConnectionFactory
> annotations use JNDI there would be a need to be a way
> >     to specify which JNDI InitialContext to use. I'm not proposing any
> of this at the moment, but it might perhaps be
> >     something that we (the JMS expert group) could consider later on as
> a optional part of JMS 2.1.
> >
> >     There's also the Java EE application client to consider.
> >
> >     Nigel
> >
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