[cdi-dev] Clarify scopes and serialization

Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibucau at gmail.com
Tue Feb 3 05:03:00 EST 2015


servlet spec requirement is only for distributed systems AFAIK == not
required in most of instances.
tomee supports both and is aligned on tomcat for all tomee flavors and
is serialization-less in openejb flavors

That said this is not a certification question but a usage question


Romain Manni-Bucau
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2015-02-03 10:59 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>:
> What about TomEE?
> After all it's Java EE 6 certified:
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/overview/compatibility-jsp-136984.html
>
> So as Mark mentioned briefly, there is a requirement by the Servlet spec, so
> I assume it is either always on or at least on by default (otherwise a TomEE
> "tweaked" like that would no longer be Java EE compliant;-)
>
> Tomcat itself was never certified.
>
> Werner
>
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>> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:50:44 +0100
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Clarify scopes and serialization
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>> in a standard tomcat yes but not in most of embedded ones...and that's
>> not the point anyway
>>
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>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>> 2015-02-02 16:50 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>:
>> > but you HAVE to manually switch it off. By _default_ the serialization
>> > is on...
>> >
>> > LieGrue,
>> > strub
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Monday, 2 February 2015, 16:42, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> <rmannibucau at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > @Mark: that's not true. 1) you can switch it off + I mainly spoke of
>> >> embedded case where it is true in 80% of cases
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>> >>
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>> >> 2015-02-02 16:38 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>:
>> >>>  Romain, that's not true. Tomcat by default ALWAYS serializes the
>> >> session at shutdown! Even if you don't have a cluster set up. This is
>> >> also
>> >> required by the Servlets spec...
>> >>>
>> >>>  LieGrue,
>> >>>  strub
>> >>>
>> >>>
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