[forge-dev] Forge build back to Stable (Hack away!)

Ivan St. Ivanov ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com
Mon Dec 12 17:53:29 EST 2011


Hi folks!

I installed Windows XP on a VirtualBox instance. Then installed Java and
Maven and extracted the latest dev build of forge. I started it and got the
following exception (pasting the most relevant part):

Exception in thread "Thread-2" javax.enterprise.event.ObserverException
        at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native
Method)

        at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstruct
orAccessorImpl.java:39)
        at
sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingC
onstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
        at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513)
....
*Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class
org.fusesource.jansi.internal.Kernel32*
        at
org.fusesource.jansi.internal.WindowsSupport.getConsoleMode(WindowsSu
pport.java:48)
        at
org.jboss.forge.shell.console.jline.WindowsTerminal.getConsoleMode(Wi
ndowsTerminal.java:257)
        at
org.jboss.forge.shell.console.jline.WindowsTerminal.init(WindowsTermi
nal.java:94)


So I searched Google for the NoClassDefFoundError and came upon this link:

http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=10985

This seemed to be the clue:

*The problem is missing dll from Visual C++ libraries on the windows XP. I
follow the following instruction :
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=5582

And now, it's good*

I installed the VC++ libraries from the above link and forge eventually
worked :-)

Could you try it?

Cheers,
Ivan

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov
<ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Unfortunately, I am using Windows 7. At home I have one Windows Vista, but
> no XP. I can create a VirtualBox instance and install XP inside, but it
> will take me some time.
>
> BTW, if it is really hanging, can you (Richard or Koen) press Ctrl+Break
> and see whether some thread is causing this?
>
> Cheers!
> Ivan
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Richard Kennard <
> richard at kennardconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah it never starts up.
>>
>> To be absolutely clear:
>>
>> 1. It does not crash or die. There is no stack trace or return to the
>> command prompt.
>> 2. It runs in the sense that you get a flashing cursor that just sits
>> there. But it does not display the 'Forge' ASCII art or anything
>> 3. It is evidently waiting on input, because if you hit return the cursor
>> moves down a line. But only once. Pressing return a second time does nothing
>>
>> On 7/12/2011 3:31 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>> > I think they mean that it never starts up, which is very strange to me.
>> >
>> > Happy holiday! I haven't actually heard of that one before (ignorant
>> me.) But have fun :)
>> >
>> > I do want to work on the startup time, but this "never starting"
>> behavior is very strange and I can't reproduce it on windows 7.
>> >
>> > Hopefully Koen will be able to. (Unless you have access to a windows 95
>> box?)
>> >
>> > ~Lincoln
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov <
>> ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com <mailto:ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Lincoln, folks!
>> >
>> >     Sure I will help. However, I wonder a couple of things:
>> >
>> >     1) What do you mean by hanging? Yes, Forge takes some 5-10 seconds
>> to start, but it finally starts. So do you aim at ~2 seconds start or maybe
>> at
>> >     Koen's and Richard's computers it never starts at all
>> >
>> >     2) When I start the debug session, should I put somewhere
>> breakpoints? If yes, where?
>> >
>> >     Cheers,
>> >     Ivan
>> >
>> >     P.S. Sorry, but I'll do that tomorrow! Today is St. Nicolas's day
>> here in Bulgaria (and I believe in the whole Christian world) and right now
>> I am
>> >     celebrating with a friend of mine his name's day ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
>> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Awesome, thanks koen.
>> >
>> >         Ivan,
>> >
>> >         Could I ask you a favor? Could you follow the debugging
>> instructions in FORGE-400 (comments) and try to find our where Forge is
>> hanging at
>> >         runtime? This would help me a *lot* since I cannot get access
>> to an XP machine right now.
>> >
>> >         ~Lincoln
>> >
>> >
>> >         On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >             I have created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400.
>> >
>> >             Cheers,
>> >             Koen
>> >
>> >             Op 6-dec.-2011, om 09:20 heeft Richard Kennard het volgende
>> geschreven:
>> >
>> >             >> on Windows 7: run hangs right after startup
>> >             >
>> >             > Yes, I can confirm this.
>> >             >
>> >             > Richard.
>> >             >
>> >             > On 6/12/2011 6:16 PM, Koen Aers wrote:
>> >             >> This is very strange. I didn't go into the details but
>> while running the tests on XP I had to use the "line.separator" property
>> because
>> >             the output in the
>> >             >> test contained "\r\n" and not "\n".
>> >             >> I'm confused now…
>> >             >>
>> >             >> Btw, I don't know what's happening but I can's seem to
>> build trunk on any other platform than OSX.
>> >             >>
>> >             >> - on XP: build as well as run hang
>> >             >> - on Windows 7: build fails with compilation error, run
>> hangs right after startup
>> >             >> - on Fedora 16: build fails with (another) compilation
>> error, run is ok
>> >             >>
>> >             >> I tried the runs with a snapshot build that I did on
>> OSX. I'll create a JIRA issue to track these problems.
>> >             >>
>> >             >> Cheers,
>> >             >> Koen
>> >             >>
>> >             >> Op 5-dec.-2011, om 22:24 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het
>> volgende geschreven:
>> >             >>
>> >             >>> Hi folks,
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Richard, thanks a lot for the hint! After downloading
>> the latest version my source compiles.
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> However, now I get an error in the test:
>> JavaClassTest::testFormattingIsNotChanged. The problem is in the asserts
>> that check whether the
>> >             output contains
>> >             >>> Telephone + line.separator + {. The next assert, which
>> also has the line.separator inside, fails too. I am running on Windows. And
>> there
>> >             line.separator
>> >             >>> is \r\n. However, in the output we get just \n. Which
>> is fine on Mac or UNIX.
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> If I change the asserts like this (replace
>> line.separator with \n):
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> assertTrue(output.contains(
>> >             >>> "Telephone\n{"));
>> >             >>> assertTrue(output.contains(
>> >             >>> ")\n {"));
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> ...it works on Windows.
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Of course it's better to fix this in the code, but I
>> saw that the toString method uses the stuff from Eclipse
>> >             (org.eclipse.jface.text.Document,
>> >             >>> org.eclipse.text.edits.TextEdit,
>> org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.CompilationUnit). So I'm not sure whether we can
>> do anything there. Unless some
>> >             of you has
>> >             >>> commit permissions in Eclipse or my observations are
>> wrong :-)
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> What do you think?
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Cheers!
>> >             >>> Ivan
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> P.S. If I change the test like above (with \n instead
>> of line.separator), the maven build is successful
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Richard Kennard <
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>> wrote:
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Ivan,
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Apologies. Forge is currently building against a
>> Metawidget snapshot, and that snapshot is still changing. You will need to
>> pull the
>> >             latest Forge
>> >             >>> build in
>> >             >>> order to get the changes (HtmlTableLayout has become
>> HtmlPanelGridLayout).
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Regards,
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> Richard.
>> >             >>>
>> >             >>> On 5/12/2011 1:58 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
>> >             >>>> Hi guys!
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> I did not pull or merge anything since my last
>> successful build (or at least I think so). And now I have a compilation
>> problem:
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> [ERROR]
>> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[87,60]
>> >             >>>> cannot find symbol
>> >             >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
>> >             >>>> location: package
>> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> [ERROR]
>> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[354,48]
>> >             >>>> cannot find symbol
>> >             >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
>> >             >>>> location: class
>> org.jboss.forge.scaffold.faces.FacesScaffold
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> The HtmlTableLayout class is in the
>> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout package coming from
>> the
>> >             >>> org.metawidget.modules/metawidget-all
>> >             >>>> dependency (version 1.35-SNAPSHOT). There is really no
>> such class in the metawidget library. I went on to check the jboss maven
>> >             repository. The class
>> >             >>>> HTMLTableLayout Indeed existed in older versions of
>> the jar. However, it's not there in latest ones (those after 1st December).
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> Does anybody else have the same problem?
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> Thanks,
>> >             >>>> Ivan
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Koen Aers <
>> koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com
>> >             <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com>
>> >             >>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> After fixing the failing test on XP, another problem
>> shows up…
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> The test 'ValidationFacetTest' in 'forge-javaee-impl'
>> hangs while initializing the fixture.
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> More in detail, the call 'beanManager.fireEvent(new
>> Startup())' in the 'beforeTest()' method of the class
>> >             'SingletonAbstractShellTest.java' never
>> >             >>>> returns.
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> I have no clue as to what might be the cause of this.
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> Cheers,
>> >             >>>> Koen
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>> Op 1-dec.-2011, om 09:15 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het
>> volgende geschreven:
>> >             >>>>
>> >             >>>>> Hi,
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> I does hang for ~5 seconds. Not sure if that is
>> problematic. But Beta 3 has the same behavior.
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> Once it is started I don't see any delays (created
>> new project, setup persistence, added an entity and a field).
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> Cheers!
>> >             >>>>> Ivan
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Richard Kennard <
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
>> >             >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> But does it run okay? For me, it kept hanging at the
>> command prompt after I typed 'bin/forge'.
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> Richard.
>> >             >>>>>
>> >             >>>>> On 1/12/2011 10:08 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
>> >             >>>>>> Maven build is successful on Windows 7 :-)
>> >             >>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Keith Babo <
>> kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com
>> >             <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com<mailto:
>> kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>>>
>> >             >>> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>
>> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>> <mailto:
>> kbabo at redhat.com
>> >             <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:
>> kbabo at redhat.com>>>>>
>> >             >>>>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>> You could always spin up a job on the JBoss Jenkins
>> server to build this on Windows for you ….
>> >             >>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III
>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Hey Koen,
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Could I ask you to look in to this? I am not at a
>> place where I have access to windows, and I don't see that error on OSX.
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >             >>>>>>> ~Lincoln
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Koen Aers <
>> koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com
>> >             <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com>
>> >             >>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>>
>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>
>> >             <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>
>> >             >>>>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:
>> koen.aers at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> I was able to build, test and run without issues on
>> OSX. On Windows (XP) the build stopped after the following failing test. I
>> didn't
>> >             >>>>>>> investigate any further.
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >             >>>>>>> Koen
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >             >>>>>>> Test set:
>> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >             >>>>>>> Tests run: 25, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0,
>> Time elapsed: 0.078 sec <<< FAILURE!
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> testFormattingIsNotChanged(org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest)
>> Time elapsed: 0.015 sec <<< FAILURE!
>> >             >>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError:
>> >             >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:91)
>> >             >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:43)
>> >             >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:54)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest.testFormattingIsNotChanged(JavaClassTest.java:77)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>> >             >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:44)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:15)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:41)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.InvokeMethod.evaluate(InvokeMethod.java:20)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:28)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:76)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:50)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$3.run(ParentRunner.java:193)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$1.schedule(ParentRunner.java:52)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.runChildren(ParentRunner.java:191)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.access$000(ParentRunner.java:42)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$2.evaluate(ParentRunner.java:184)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.run(ParentRunner.java:236)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4TestSet.execute(JUnit4TestSet.java:59)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:115)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:102)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:180)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>> >             >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java:350)
>> >             >>>>>>> at
>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:1021)
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Richard Kennard <
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
>> >             >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>
>> >             >>>>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
>> >             <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>> <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
>> >             >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
>> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Lincoln,
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> The build seems to run, and there are no lingering
>> test failures, but on Windows the distribution fails to start up? It just
>> hangs at the
>> >             >>>>>>> command prompt,
>> >             >>>>>>> without printing 'Forge' in ASCII text or anything.
>> It appears to be waiting for keyboard input, as if I press ENTER the cursor
>> moves
>> >             down
>> >             >>>>>>> once, but then
>> >             >>>>>>> it too stops.
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> I have grown so used to Forge telling me I'm an
>> idiot for running Windows, but now it won't even do that :)
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Regards,
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> Richard.
>> >             >>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>> On 30/11/2011 9:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>>> What was the problem in the end ?
>> >             >>>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>> My guess was a memory leak in forge or the
>> testsuite - did I win ?
>> >             >>>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>> /max
>> >             >>>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 22:16, Lincoln Baxter, III
>> wrote:
>> >             >>>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>>> Please feel free to run the full build on any
>> operating system, without the aggravation of lingering test failures!
>> >             >>>>>>>>>
>> >             >>>>>>>>> --
>> >             >>>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III
>> >             >>>>>>>>> http://ocpsoft.com <http://ocpsoft.com/> <
>> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/>
>> >             >>>>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> <
>> http://scrumshark.com/> <http://scrumshark.com/>
>> >             >>>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"
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>> >             >>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
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>> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/>
>> >             >>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> <
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>
>> >             >>> <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>>
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
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>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>
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>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>>
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
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>> >             <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>
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>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:
>> forge-dev at lists.jboss.org>>>
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>> >         --
>> >         Lincoln Baxter, III
>> >         http://ocpsoft.com
>> >         http://scrumshark.com
>> >         "Keep it Simple"
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>> > "Keep it Simple"
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