[Hawkular-dev] Is this an applicable use-case for Hawkular

[Anton Hughes]

Thanks Lucas

Sounds really great!

Much appreciated!

On 2 November 2015 at 09:26, Lucas Ponce <lponce at redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anton Hughes" <ah at tradeworks.io>
> > To: "Discussions around Hawkular development" <
> hawkular-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 2:16:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hawkular-dev] Is this an applicable use-case for Hawkular
> >
> > Coming back to my original question - and based on some further thinking
> and
> > reading of the Hawkular website, I have the following thoughts.
> >
> > On the Hawkular website, it is written:
> >
> >
> >
> > For who ?
> > There are primarly (BTW - this is spelled incorrect) two types of users.
> > Users who wants a toolkit to do server/ system monitoring in general, for
> > them we provide a rich REST API to store metrics, trigger alerts and
> manage
> > an inventory of resources
> > Users who want a full-fledge admin console to monitor and manage
> middleware
> > servers (Currently, only WildFly is supported)
> > I've highlighted the general area that I am most interested - and I think
> > many others would be too.
> > Please take a quick look at
> http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/EventSourcing.html
> > . Event Sourcing places emphasis on events of interest - in the Shipping
> > example in this link the interesting events are:
> >
> >
> >     * Ship Arrives
> >     * Ship Departs
> >
> > To be able store (store metrics?) and react (trigger alert) in this
> example
> > would be very beneficial in many situations.
> >
> > I hope this helps to illustrates my use-case.
> >
>
> Hi Anton,
>
> Thanks for giving feedback and illustrate this interesting use case.
>
> We are finishing the Events feature inside the Hawkular Alerts component
> and I think that it can work for your requeriments.
>
> Once development is in a state to be used I will add some examples
> following your use case (and publish them on the blog).
>
> I hope that might helps.
>
> Lucas
>
>
> > On 29 October 2015 at 14:34, Jay Shaughnessy < jshaughn at redhat.com >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anton, yes, it can be a little confusing. The Hawkular project is an
> > end-to-end monitoring and management tool focused on Red Hat software.
> Today
> > it basically offers a Wildfly agent for discovering and managing app
> > servers, their hosted apps, and all of the things that make up those
> apps.
> > What is can handle grows with every release. Hawkular leverages a bunch
> of
> > components to perform that job. There is HK-Inventory to represent a
> network
> > of inventories resources (like an app server, a datasource, a jvm, etc),
> > HK-Metrics as a Cassandra-backed time-series store, HK-Alerts as a
> > Drools-backed alerting tool, HK-Accounts as a KeyCloak backed
> > multi-tenant/auth/authz tool, HK-Console for UI, HK-Bus for a comm
> backbone,
> > etc..
> >
> > Some of the HK components, namely HK-Metrics and HK-Alerts support
> standalone
> > deployment outside of Hawkular. They are named Hawkular-Metrics and
> > Hawkular-Alerts because they have been developed as part of the Hawkular
> > project, but they can be used independently. Hope that helps...
> >
> >
> > On 10/29/2015 9:16 AM, Anton Hughes wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 October 2015 at 14:12, Jay Shaughnessy < jshaughn at redhat.com >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Metrics and Alerts can both be used outside of the Hawkular framework so
> > really you can store any metric you like, or alert on basically any data
> you
> > like. As for Events, the next release of Hawkular Alerts (0.6.0) will
> > include a new Events feature that you may find interesting. Whereas
> Alerts
> > are relatively rare, typically involve human interaction, and run
> through a
> > simple life-cycle; Events are likely much more numerous, representing any
> > sort of happening that a client wants to persist. The interesting thing
> > about Events in HK-Alerts is that they can be inserted directly via API
> or
> > can be generated via Trigger, like an Alert. And Events can also be used
> as
> > Trigger conditions, to contribute to further Alert or Event generation.
> >
> > Thanks Jay - this sounds really cool!
> >
> > I have heard a few times now that hawkular components can be used
> outside of
> > the hawkular framework. What exactly is the hawkular framework? As an
> > outsider I am learning about Hawkular and its features. There is good
> > documentation on the features, but the underlying framework, not so much.
> >
> > Also, regarding documentation, I could not find how to store any
> 'metric' or
> > data. Specifically, I am looking to store not just a metric but a pojo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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