[Hawkular-dev] communty distribution question

Gary Brown gbrown at redhat.com
Fri Apr 29 06:11:21 EDT 2016


I agree, it must pass the 5 minute test, but think we need to address it by making the community version of MiQ+provider+hawkular headless server easier to install, otherwise what is going to encourage our community users to try it out, and contribute, to what will be the product?

Regards
Gary

----- Original Message -----
> On 29 Apr 2016, at 11:05, Juraci Paixão Kröhling wrote:
> 
> > On 29.04.2016 10:44, Gary Brown wrote:
> >> So at the moment I don't see a compelling reason for a fully
> >> integration community distribution with UI.
> >
> > This is exactly what I was trying to find out when I asked the
> > following
> > on the "Future Packaging of Hawkular" thread:
> >
> > - what is the motivation for having the "Community Distribution"?
> 
> As I said before: I believe that to be attractive for community, a
> product/project
> needs to pass the "I can get it initially going in 5 minutes" test.
> Which is/has been given before in all the Hawkular releases.
> And which will no longer be true for the hawkular-core-services, as the
> user needs to go through a number of additional steps to see something
> on screen:
> - install Cassandra
> - install some kind of UI (e.g. download + configure Grafana)
> - manually supply some data (curl, install wf+agent somewhere(*)
> 
> I do not believe that
> 
>     "It was hard to create, so it should be hard to use"
> 
> should be applied.
> 
>    Heiko
> 
> *) this may still be provided inside core-services. But then as
> the Hawkular server is a black box, the detailed self-monitoring
> as we have today may change.
> 
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