[Hawkular-dev] communty distribution question

[Heiko W.Rupp]

On 29 Apr 2016, at 11:05, Juraci Paixão Kröhling wrote:

> On 29.04.2016 10:44, Gary Brown wrote:
>> So at the moment I don't see a compelling reason for a fully 
>> integration community distribution with UI.
>
> This is exactly what I was trying to find out when I asked the 
> following
> on the "Future Packaging of Hawkular" thread:
>
> - what is the motivation for having the "Community Distribution"?

As I said before: I believe that to be attractive for community, a 
product/project
needs to pass the "I can get it initially going in 5 minutes" test.
Which is/has been given before in all the Hawkular releases.
And which will no longer be true for the hawkular-core-services, as the
user needs to go through a number of additional steps to see something
on screen:
- install Cassandra
- install some kind of UI (e.g. download + configure Grafana)
- manually supply some data (curl, install wf+agent somewhere(*)

I do not believe that

    "It was hard to create, so it should be hard to use"

should be applied.

   Heiko

*) this may still be provided inside core-services. But then as
the Hawkular server is a black box, the detailed self-monitoring
as we have today may change.