[Hawkular-dev] BTM or not BTM, that is the question

[Gary Brown]

----- Original Message -----
> Hawkular App Insight or shorter Hawkular Insight.

Unfortunately I think fuse have a component called "Insight", and used by other companies, so probably would lead to confusion.

> 
> side note "App" sounds less enterprisy to me than "Application"

Agree, but Application is much longer, especially as we would need some other term, ApplicationManager, etc.

Good thing is that every suggestion so far seems to focus more on the application concept, so we are narrowing it down :)

> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gary Brown < gbrown at redhat.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> Was looking at the wikipedia page for APM:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_performance_management
> 
> Their definition (conceptual framework) includes user defined 'business
> transactions' as well, which fits with the project - so possibly Hawkular
> APM.
> 
> Although if inclusion of 'performance' maybe indicates too much of an IT
> tool, rather than a tool for IT and Business, then possibly Hawkular App
> Manager?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Extracting some ideas from MiQ.
> > 
> > They uses the term "Performace" as a wider concept that is focus in the
> > health of the system.
> > 
> > So how it sounds
> > 
> > - Hawkular App Performance
> > - Hawkular Business Performance ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Mensaje original -----
> > > De: "Thomas Heute" < theute at redhat.com >
> > > Para: "Discussions around Hawkular development"
> > > < hawkular-dev at lists.jboss.org >
> > > Enviados: Viernes, 27 de Mayo 2016 11:11:19
> > > Asunto: Re: [Hawkular-dev] BTM or not BTM, that is the question
> > > 
> > > I would favor a renaming to "Hawkular <Something>" if we had an idea for
> > > a
> > > name that encapsulate the 3 notions... (I don't). I agree that BTM is
> > > confusing now.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Gary Brown < gbrown at redhat.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi all
> > > 
> > > As discussed in the recent blog (and demo), Hawkular BTM now provides
> > > Application Performance Management (APM), Distributed Tracing (DT) and
> > > Business Transaction Management (BTM).
> > > 
> > > The project was initially started to address the third area, hence being
> > > called BTM - however BTM requires the collection of the information used
> > > to
> > > provide APM and DT - and providing those other views on the information
> > > is
> > > useful to users.
> > > 
> > > Due to the wider scope, just wondering whether the BTM name is now
> > > misleading. If a project component rename was considered a good idea,
> > > then
> > > now would probably be the best time to do it, before getting close to a
> > > stable 1.0 version?
> > > 
> > > So two questions:
> > > 
> > > 1) Is a component rename a good idea?
> > > 
> > > 2) If so, any suggestions for a name, either some generic term that
> > > encapsulates APM, DT and BTM - or alternatively a completely unrelated
> > > name
> > > (but then it would not follow the pattern used by other Hawkular
> > > components).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > Gary
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