[Hawkular-dev] BTM or not BTM, that is the question

Jiri Kremser jkremser at redhat.com
Fri May 27 05:46:32 EDT 2016


Hawkular App Insight or shorter Hawkular Insight.

side note "App" sounds less enterprisy to me than "Application"

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gary Brown <gbrown at redhat.com> wrote:

> Was looking at the wikipedia page for APM:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_performance_management
>
> Their definition (conceptual framework) includes user defined 'business
> transactions' as well, which fits with the project - so possibly Hawkular
> APM.
>
> Although if inclusion of 'performance' maybe indicates too much of an IT
> tool, rather than a tool for IT and Business, then possibly Hawkular App
> Manager?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Extracting some ideas from MiQ.
> >
> > They uses the term "Performace" as a wider concept that is focus in the
> > health of the system.
> >
> > So how it sounds
> >
> >  - Hawkular App Performance
> >  - Hawkular Business Performance ?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Mensaje original -----
> > > De: "Thomas Heute" <theute at redhat.com>
> > > Para: "Discussions around Hawkular development"
> > > <hawkular-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> > > Enviados: Viernes, 27 de Mayo 2016 11:11:19
> > > Asunto: Re: [Hawkular-dev] BTM or not BTM, that is the question
> > >
> > > I would favor a renaming to "Hawkular <Something>" if we had an idea
> for a
> > > name that encapsulate the 3 notions... (I don't). I agree that BTM is
> > > confusing now.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Gary Brown < gbrown at redhat.com >
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > As discussed in the recent blog (and demo), Hawkular BTM now provides
> > > Application Performance Management (APM), Distributed Tracing (DT) and
> > > Business Transaction Management (BTM).
> > >
> > > The project was initially started to address the third area, hence
> being
> > > called BTM - however BTM requires the collection of the information
> used to
> > > provide APM and DT - and providing those other views on the
> information is
> > > useful to users.
> > >
> > > Due to the wider scope, just wondering whether the BTM name is now
> > > misleading. If a project component rename was considered a good idea,
> then
> > > now would probably be the best time to do it, before getting close to a
> > > stable 1.0 version?
> > >
> > > So two questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Is a component rename a good idea?
> > >
> > > 2) If so, any suggestions for a name, either some generic term that
> > > encapsulates APM, DT and BTM - or alternatively a completely unrelated
> name
> > > (but then it would not follow the pattern used by other Hawkular
> > > components).
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Gary
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