[Hawkular-dev] hawkular.org - Redux Initiative

[Thomas Heute]

Alerts don't include Metrics, but the opposite is true for a few releases
now (it has not always been the case).

Yes, Hawkular Services is/was the go-to place since it had everything
included (Alerting, Metrics, Inventory(RIP), EAP Agent, Command Gateway,
"glue code")...

The EAP Agent and Command Gateway are pretty much related to ManageIQ so we
could make the switch and claim it is for ManageIQ (and work in that
direction) but then we first need an easy way to consume Metrics+Alerting,
currently there is no binary for that (No Zip, No Docker) which has been
missing for a whiile, there is also no quickstart except for Alerting.

Thomas

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Josejulio Martinez Magana <
jmartine at redhat.com> wrote:

> i might be wrong, but services = metrics (with alerts) + agent + glue code
> between agent and alerts(notifications) + status page
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Edgar Hernandez Garcia <
> ehernand at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, its a little confusing.
>>
>> May be I'm wrong in that alerts include metrics (I wrote that only
>> trusting my memory). If I'm wrong, it's ok to keep them as separate
>> releases. But the confusion remains between metrics and services, because
>> it's not very clear how you choose between metrics and services.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Josejulio Martinez Magana <
>> jmartine at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't know alerts included metrics (I knew that metrics included
>>> alerts)
>>> If they include each other, why not call them as a whole instead as the
>>> parts?
>>>
>>> Is confusing for me that they are two distributions and that each that
>>> are mutually included in each other. What's the difference?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Edgar Hernandez Garcia <
>>> ehernand at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Edgar Hernández <ehernand at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  And, now, starting with "metrics 0.27.0
>>>>> <https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-metrics/releases/tag/0.27.0>" I
>>>>> can see that metrics also includes alerts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I just realized that alerts is included with metrics even with previous
>>>> releases. So, both parts have been shipping the other part for a while.
>>>> Now, it's got weirder for me.
>>>>
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