[hibernate-dev] Stride

[Christian Beikov]

Slack does require more memory than other solutions, running on 200 MB 
here for 3 Organizations, but it is a really nice tool.

So my preference is Slack.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
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*Christian Beikov*
Am 27.07.2018 um 09:19 schrieb Yoann Rodiere:
> So, I guess this closes the "Stride" case: we won't use it.
>
> I quite like Zulip, but I must admit it doesn't do much to make life easy
> for new users. This choice of theirs to make topics mandatory (or at least
> *seemingly* mandatory), in particular, is very likely to confuse new users,
> be it Hibernate Users joining to look for help, or even people in our team.
> So even though I like it, I think a lot of people won't, so they won't use
> it much, which kind of defeats the purpose of a communication tool.
>
> Slack would do the trick, I guess, and since most of our rooms are public
> we don't care that they probably use the data for their own profit (with
> such a trove of data, I would be surprised if they didn't).
>
> There are alternative solutions, though. Of course there are the clones of
> Slack such Rocket Chat and Mattermost. I just created a RocketChat
> instance: https://hibernate.rocket.chat/channel/general
>
> There is also gitter, which apparently some people in our team have been
> starting to use: https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm . No JIRA
> integration there, though.
>
> I think in the end it will all come down to what people in our team are
> most comfortable with. Whatever the technology and its future, what we need
> most is everyone to be happy with it. We can deal with yet another switch
> in the future, but in the meantime we need everyone to use whatever we
> picked. And in this regard, it would help if people made their preferences
> known... Anyone?
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate NoORM Team
> yoann at hibernate.org
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 08:43, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 to test Zulip, thanks for setting it up Yoann.
>>
>> Personally having used it quite a bit with other projects: it has
>> potential but it's not particularly polished yet; in particular the
>> mobile client has severe issues, and people are quite often failing to
>> use the "topics" correctly.
>>
>> In the news today, Atlassian is killing both HipChat and Stride;
>> Started a partnership to move to Slack:
>>   -
>> https://www.atlassian.com/blog/announcements/new-atlassian-slack-partnership
>>
>> I've been forced to use Slack as well for yet another group. Sadly not
>> OSS and infamous for needing tons of memory, but it's working very
>> well and has some very thouroughly well designed features.
>>
>> So this raises more question..
>>
>>    - will Zulip catch up?
>>
>>    - Do we prefer a half baked solution just because it's open?
>>
>>    - Is the humoungous memory requirement of Slack a real problem?
>>
>> Tempted to just get back to IRC :/
>>
>> The Atlassian&Slack partnership however is likely just a small step
>> towards more interesting integrations across the products.
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 21:56, Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>> I encountered yet another problem with HipChat [1], so I created a
>>> Hibernate organization in Zulip. Turns out GitHub and Google
>> authentication
>>> are available even in the free plan.
>>>
>>> Anyone cares to join me to test it? It's here:
>>> https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/#
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/hipchat/hipchat-github-addon/issues/4/cant-add-organization-repo?_ga=2.132026959.1338067251.1532438591-706928748.1527601569
>>> Yoann Rodière
>>> Hibernate NoORM Team
>>> yoann at hibernate.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 at 10:50, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.smet at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... But I think the one criteria that will make us pick Stride is free
>>>>> hosting. Most other platforms either do not have a free plan, or do
>> not
>>>>> provide all of their features to free plan users. Zulip apparently
>> removes
>>>>> OAuth authentication in its free plan, for instance. The Infinispan
>> team
>>>>> has OAuth authentication enabled though... Do they pay for their Zulip
>>>>> instance?
>>>>>
>>>> Quote: "Zulip Cloud Premium is free for open source projects and a wide
>>>> variety of non-commercial entities"
>>>>
>>>> What bugged me first was the capped archives of the free offer.
>>>>
>>>> HipChat is doing a very similar thing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Guillaume
>>>>
>>>>
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