[jboss-dev] My logging ultimatum

David M. Lloyd david.lloyd at redhat.com
Wed Dec 12 12:57:23 EST 2007


On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:06:04 +0100
Adrian Brock <abrock at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 16:01 +0000, Tim Fox wrote:
> > Huh? How is using JDK logging NIH syndrome? Seems the complete opposite.
> > 
> > Surely writing your own (jboss common logging) is NIH?
> 
> Read the discussion. 
> 
> The proposal is to replace a 16k jar (that uses a simple
> wrapper mechanism) with the following:

Well, not exactly.  Read my other mail for the actual changes I am
proposing...

> 5) Get Sun to fix/backport their bugs so we don't
> have to use log4j (zero jar dependency logging)

Fix bugs yes - I don't really care if we use log4j in the appserver
though.  That's Scott's thing.  I just think we *shouldn't* be using log
facades in otherwise independent projects.

- DML



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