[jboss-dev] My logging ultimatum

[Jason T. Greene]

I think David just volunteered.... Right David???

Scott M Stark wrote:
> The main problem I have had with JUL integration in the past is that it
> requires hooking into the core configuration at the extension classpath
> level. I had to replace the JUL manager to allow for configurations that
> loaded loggers from application/thread context class loaders. Not that
> this is hard, its just something that has to be part of the server
> bootstrap process rather than something that can be done via late binding.
> 
> Its been a while since I looked at integration though. With the other
> mega-thread about i18n/JUL integration, we need some tasks to
> investigate what we can/want to do in terms of allowing seamless
> integration from framework JUL usage to be mapped to server loggers, and
> what the jboss logging spi is.
> 
> Bela Ban wrote:
>>
>> Tim Fox wrote:
>>> +100 to David on this.
>>>
>>> The point here is about reducing number of dependencies. Another
>>> meta-framework (like jboss common logging) is not a good solution
>>> IMHO. This is particular important for OEMs who may want to use our
>>> project embedded in their own applications (this is what we intend to
>>> do for JBM2)
>>>
>>> If JDK logging can allow you to delegate to you log tool of choice by
>>> deploy time configuration, and the bugs in JDK logging are only bugs
>>> in the JDK logging implementation which you can bypass anyway, then we
>>> should all be using JDK logging surely.
>>>
>>> I'm certainly going to look at refactoring JBM to use JDK logging.
>> Me too. If Adrian and/or Scott can tell me that this will not cause
>> issues in the appserver because they can wrap/redirect my calls to JUL
>> to log4j (or their own logging impl), then that would be fine. Otherwise
>> I'd probably wait for JDK 7
>>
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