[jboss-dev] Re: JBM Examples moving to AS 5

Wed Jan 7 00:56:07 EST 2009

Thanks Shelly.

Shelly McGowan wrote:
> Howard/Clebert,
>
> The latest roadmap discussions can be seen here:
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> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/jboss-development/2008-December/013263.html
>
>
> Commits should also be done in the 5.0 Branch too:
>
> https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/branches/Branch_5_0/
>
>
> Shelly
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 10:53 +0800, Howard Gao wrote:
>   
>> I only know this one. :) I need to make sure it is the right place to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Clebert Suconic wrote:
>>     
>>> Are there any other branches we have to update?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Howard Gao wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi JBoss team,
>>>>
>>>> I'm working to add JBoss Messaging 1.4 examples to AS 5 SVN repo. The 
>>>> location I put those examples is
>>>>
>>>> messaging/src/etc/examples
>>>>
>>>> and the examples will be built into AS 5 installation package, the 
>>>> location will be :
>>>>
>>>> $JBOSS_HOME/docs/examples/jms/examples
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking two questions,
>>>>
>>>> 1. are those above locations OK ?
>>>> 2. I'm working on the AS 5 trunk 
>>>> (https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/trunk), is that also OK that 
>>>> those changes go to the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Howard
>>>>
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [jboss-dev] AS5.x, AS6 roadmaps
>> From:
>> Dimitris Andreadis <dandread at redhat.com>
>> Date:
>> Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:16:52 +0200
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>> Regarding EAP5, my suggestion is to stick with Branch_5_0 and 
>> continue work there. If at some point we *have* to consider 
>> non-backwards compatible changes, then we can branch off Branch_5_1 
>> from the latest Branch_5_0. Or even stay with Branch_5_0 if the 
>> changes are not significant.
>>
>> What are the non-backward compatible changes anyway? That's the real 
>> question to ask. If we are certain of those we could Branch_5_1 now. 
>> The key is that we don't want to deviate much from 5.0.0.GA. 
>> Otherwise all the testing and stabilization we have done is lost.
>>
>> About trunk, I think we should point to AS6 Alpha. To try 
>> experimenting with a different Bootstrap+ProfileService type of setup 
>> either create another working branch or an external project (JBoss 
>> Reloaded or whatever) and merge back when done.
>>
>> I think the key is to keep trunk relatively usable and stable. If we 
>> start breaking things here and there we'll repeat the same mistakes 
>> we did with AS5; the whole thing will soon get out of control.
>>
>> Carlo de Wolf wrote:
>>> Tied to this is what we're going to do with the branches.
>>>
>>> We need a branch to get to EAP 5 which will contain fixes which are 
>>> not backwards compatible with AS 5.0 GA, by definition this rules 
>>> out Branch_5_0. For community purposes we should only have to use 
>>> trunk, so effectively Branch_5_0 is a dead branch unless we need to 
>>> do a 5.0.1. So we might as well startup the EAP branch right away.
>>>
>>> In AS trunk we can pursue the plan outlined below by Scott. 
>>> Meanwhile I would say we create an AS 6 project in which we build 6 
>>> as we envisioned it in the first place: JBoss Bootstrap (MC, VDF 
>>> etc) + JBoss Profile Service. For the first iteration we can 
>>> hardcode one profile: JavaEE 6 until the Profile Service is up and 
>>> running. That means any components coming free out of the AS 5 
>>> (/trunk) refactoring can immediately be incorporated into AS 6. At 
>>> some point the refactoring of AS 5 will make it look almost exactly 
>>> as AS 6 or AS 6 will become fully operational. At which we deprecate 
>>> AS 5 (/trunk).
>>>
>>> Carlo
>>>
>>> Scott Stark wrote:
>>>> We need to finalize the 3 month road map for AS5.x and its relation 
>>>> to AS6. The current discussions have been around embedded and EE6 
>>>> type profiles and that we should focus on incorporating AS6 
>>>> elements in the next AS5.x release that improve the following areas:
>>>>
>>>> * Unit Test Capabilities.  The ability to embed JBoss inside unit 
>>>> tests so that they can be run with no special plugins within an 
>>>> IDE, vanilla maven testsuite, vanilla ant testsuite.
>>>> * Maven JBoss Plugin.  You can define a configuration or override 
>>>> the default.  Basically making it nice and easy to use for maven 
>>>> people.
>>>> * Bundling of embedded jopr for the management console
>>>> * Get on-demand working for as many services as possible
>>>> * Optimize boot time (JBoss 5 boots much slower than JBoss 4.2)
>>>> * Deprecate and prune components and move them to a deprecated 
>>>> folder so that they don't boot up with default config. (Web 
>>>> Console, JMX-Console, Scheduler, EJB 2.x)
>>>> * Clean up service dependencies so its easier to add/remove 
>>>> components and subsystems.  This is related to on-demand as well.
>>>> * Define proper packaging of services so that dependencies and 
>>>> isolation of implementation details exist.
>>>> * Profile service supporting subprofiles and proper repository 
>>>> abstraction to allow for simple requirements descriptions of 
>>>> services in a profile driving the post MC bootstrap loading of 
>>>> services.
>>>>
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