[jbosstools-dev] Re: [Soa-tools-list] Eclipse version 4 (e4) efforts around a unified connection framework

[John Graham]

> ...and I actually cannot see what usecase there is for making unified  
> connection framework that crosses all those different technologies...what is the  
> point ?

At the base use case level, yes there are differences, and it is not
obvious why you might want to use, for example, DTP with DSDP and so on.
But product extenders come up with interesting ideas, and that's where
they make their money. ;)

Conceptually, the notion of "connection" should be viewed like a "file"
in Eclipse. Eclipse provides a unified file access mechanism through the
"workspace," and this is used by very different projects. Because there
is the underlying commonality, tooling is free to exploit the idea that
a "file is a file" and a "connection is a connection" as it wishes.

-- John

On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 07:59 +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> ECF is lowlevel protocol stuff. I wouldn't implement a JDBC connection on  
> it.
> 
> ...and I actually cannot see what usecase there is for making unified  
> connection
> framework that crosses all those different technologies...what is the  
> point ?
> 
> It is completely different user interaction scenarioes...
> 
> -max
> 
> > John Graham 写道:
> >>> Where?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Since Brian Fitz from DTP started that page, I'd contact him on the DTP
> >> newsgroup or dtp-dev at eclipse.org and he can provide further meeting info
> >> as necessary.
> >>
> >>
> >>> ...and who else besides DTP does "connections" ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> There's the server connections in WTP, and the DTP/WTP connections don't
> >> know about each other. Likewise, DSDP has connections to "remote
> >> systems," TPTP has connections to debug/monitor targets, the platform
> >> has connections to source control....
> >>
> >> Ultimately it would be nice if Eclipse had one notion of "connection"
> >> typed based on what the endpoint is. Tools could then use these
> >> connections in interesting ways.
> >>
> >> -- John
> >>
> > A unified connection framework ? but we know that there is ECF now .
> > what's the different between ECF and the "Unified Connection Framework"?
> >> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 22:54 +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:21:00 +0200, John Graham <jgraham at redhat.com>  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> As anyone who has built using a number of Eclipse projects knows,
> >>>> connectivity is one fragmented bag of breakage. It hurts us indirectly
> >>>> in JBT because of the DTP/WTP fragmentation, and there's more around
> >>>> useful tools elsewhere that are hard to integrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone interested in this area is encouraged to participate in these  
> >>>> E4
> >>>> discussions.
> >>>>
> >>> Where?
> >>>
> >>> ...and who else besides DTP does "connections" ?
> >>>
> >>> -max
> >>>
> >>
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