[jbosstools-dev] Eclipse process vs just OSS RE: Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?

[Paul Verest]

Hello All

> From: manderse at redhat.com
> To: paul.verest at live.com
> CC: mistria at redhat.com; angelo.zerr at gmail.com; jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse process vs just OSS RE: Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 09:59:30 +0200
> 
> >>> Just want to add that Eclipse is regarded by some as some overhead.
> >>
> >> yes, and if you don't want to do that overhead you can't expect to be
> >> integrated
> >> in overall solutions. That is fine and complete fair to say.
> > It is great that we agree about overhead. When it is said openly and 
> > with exact additional steps,that would make it clear and 
> > comprehensive.
> 
> Funny enough i'm not really following what you mean with "said openly 
> and with exact additional steps" ?
> 
> You want someone from eclipse.org to say "The Eclipse process might be 
> perceived as heavy and not for everyone - but that is OK." ?
Something like
Eclipse process adds a few steps- signing CLA [link]- setting up project on Github [link], Ecipse git [link]
I have never contributed to Eclipse project,so I don't know exact steps.
> 
> >>> Maybe simple explanation and success example can show that it s 
> >>> easy.
> >>
> >> vert.x is at eclipse now - yes, there is overhead but github is used 
> >> for
> >> contributions.
> >>
> >>> (Especially with cases when code/interactions continues to be on
> >>> GitHub)
> >>> And that would be one more nice addition to what is missing on
> >>> eclipse.org site.
> >>
> >> What page are you looking at where this is not highlighted enough ?
> > I don't know URLs to concise answer to this thread topic.
> 
> Okey but you said it is somehow missing on eclipse.org so i'm just 
> wondering where you have been looking ?

http://www.eclipse.org/committers/I did not really know what to search.Eclipse has a lot of resources in many places with different level of relevance.

> 
> Here is first hits I get when searching eclipse.org github:
> 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/GitHub
> 
> searching on the wiki gives you details on how you hook up the CLA 
> check: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding/Hosting_a_Project_at_GitHub
> 
> and http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources explains it too.
> 
> and finally the most central page on this is probably 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding
> 
> What is the page/info you feel are missing in the above ?
> 
> I think the problem you are seeing is a perception problem and that 
> eclipse.org actually have gone
> a long way since many years ago. Yes, there is still a process, and yes 
> it is heavy at times when you need
> to check your dependencies are actually clean - but in day to day work 
> it is really not different than
> any other project.
Well. That was discussion between the person who knows (Max)and the person who didn't see what he had imagine (Paul).
Now I know how to start and where to ask when needed.
> 
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
 		 	   		  
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