[jbpm-dev] jbpm 5 feedback

[Salaboy]

Totally agree with bernd

- Ing. Mauricio Salatino -

On May 14, 2010, at 3:51, Bernd Rücker <bernd.ruecker at camunda.com>  
wrote:

> Hey all.
>
> So now just a quick word from me: The noSQL-thing I think is pretty
> important for Marketing. Eric, you mentioned the right buzz word:  
> Cloud.
> Even If the use case is not that big, it really influences the whole
> Engine architecture, so even if we don't want to go in the cloud
> direction, this must be a very clear decision upfront! You cannot just
> change it later on...
>
> And in my eyes, being deployable in the cloud is an interesting  
> feature
> knowadays for a Process Engine, especially for marketing or  
> management ;-)
> But since it make things much more complicated, deciding against it is
> valid as well, but it should be a clear decision, that's m point.
>
> Cheerio
> Bernd
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: jbpm-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> [mailto:jbpm-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org] Im Auftrag von Eric D.  
> Schabell
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Mai 2010 20:08
> An: jbpm-dev at lists.jboss.org
> Betreff: Re: [jbpm-dev] jbpm 5 feedback
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Zoppello <zoppello at tiscali.it>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> First off all thank you comments here some further clarifications /
>> response:
>>
>> 1) OSGi... i think that this is a prirority... there's a lot of  
>> interest
>> around it and a lot
>> of companies are moving towards OSGi powered applications. BTW with
>> regards to jbpm it could be  not only a JBPM problems but also on  
>> it's
>> dependencies..
>>
> I hope this will be a longer term roadmap item, getting a release out
> and moving in the right direction would hopefully still hold priority.
>
>> 2) About the persistence layer i perfectly agree tha JPA is the right
>> choice but what
>> i really would like to see is the layer implementing the engine  
>> core to
>> be separated from
>> the persistence one.
>>
> Seems like the way to go to me for what that is worth.
>
>> 3) Regard NoSQL i think that in some situations it could fit very  
>> well
>> ( for example
>> grid system as salaboy suggested ). I'm not suggesting to drop the
>> realtional persistence layer
>> but to support also other based on NoSQL.
>>
> This should be so far out there on the roadmap that you can't even
> read the tiny letters! ;-)
>
> Now seriously, I have never run into jBPM implementations trying to
> grid/cloud or whatever you are thinking this 'noSQL' term is needed
> for. I would be very interested in seeing the use cases that someone
> is trying to implement. That should be the only basis of spending the
> scarce resources on deviating from the jBPM5 roadmap for quite some
> time. When and if these use cases pop up, start this discussion back
> up would be my plan of attack.
>
> Regards, erics
>
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