[jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] Proposal Faces Managed Bean Annotations For Containers that implement Servlet 2.5 and Beyond

Jason Lee jason at STEEPLESOFT.COM
Mon Apr 6 18:52:30 EDT 2009


I'm 100% OK with supporting both options.  As you know, I think, from
a separate email, I currently have a small JSF2 app under development
running on GlassFish v2.  I *may* end up adding Seam to help solve
from issues with security and JPA+transactions.  I may throw in
Guice.  Who knows?  I'm still just tinkering.  For the time being,
though, @ManagedBean is doing the trick for me (e.g., http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/bootstrapping-a-jsf-2-project/)
  It would be a shame to lose that.

On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Allen wrote:

>
> Leave the annotations in for the simple cases, and leverage the EE6
> stuff for the more complex.  There's no good technical reason to
> throw away the "low end" applications.
>
> I would choose another word for "complex", perhaps "sophisticated"
> or "refined". Other than that, I think we are in agreement as to the
> scope of each option. I suggest we add non-normative text in the
> spec that recommends for a complete DI and context management
> solution, developers should be forward looking to JCDI. Of course,
> we can't say when it will be available, but surely containers will
> start offering it as a backport as Web Beans is doing.
>
> It's refreshing to me, as an application developer, to know that a
> mature DI and context management solution is going to be available
> without having to go outside of Java EE (e.g., Spring) to get it.
> While we want to appeal to the entry-level users with @ManagedBean
> and @ManagedProperty, we should also assure those more advanced
> users that we have considered their needs as well. Hence the
> recommendation for the non-normative text.
>
> -Dan
>
> --
> Dan Allen
> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>
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> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
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Jason Lee, SCJP
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Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team
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