[jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] Sun Certified JSF Developer Exam Questions (was:Re: Where's Ed Burns this week?)

[Imre Osswald]

"...especially if I can not think of a better wrong answer..."
maybe we should stick with the groovy thing  :)

Actually my a) was not very good and should be more like:
"By calling the registerManagedBean method on the Faces-Application  
instance."
(as the method signature i came up with, is missing the scope  
anyway ;) )

Imre

On 18.12.2009, at 10:08, Martin Marinschek wrote:

> Ah well, so this is what the community decides as a question:
>
> How can you register a managed bean with JSF2?
>
> a) By calling FacesContext.getApplication().registerManagedBean(String
> name, Class<?> beanClass)
> b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file
> c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean
> (@ManagedBean or @Named)
> d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers like a CDI
> implementation or Spring
>
> I would be curious as to how many people find the correct answer ;)
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss at mx.jevelopers.com> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> it is terribly complicated and wrong to do it (I totally agree),
>> but still possible. (As I said, I would never want to see anything
>> like that)
>> As such rendering a) to maybe not the best "wrong" answer.
>>
>> The problem with d) being true, is that there are plenty of horrible
>> ways I could come up to register managed beans ;)
>>
>> Still there should be a question about managed beans, and b,c and d,
>> should be in the answers.
>> Maybe we can either tweak the question, or change a) a bit, but I am
>> also O.K. with having the question as is.
>> I don't want to be a "Haarspalter" (quibbler?), especially if I can
>> not think of a better wrong answer :D
>>
>> Maybe:
>> a) by putting the bean into the session-map?
>>
>> which would make the bean usable in EL, as if it were a managed-bean.
>> But not registering it, nor does this make the bean managed.
>>
>> or:		
>> a) by calling  
>> FacesContext.getApplication().registerManagedBean(String
>> name, Class<?> beanClass)
>> ... no comment :)
>>
>> regards
>> Imre
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18.12.2009, at 02:25, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Imre,
>>>
>>> I don't know of a d) which is used like this (with some DI- 
>>> containers,
>>> you can of course do it, although nobody I have seen does it). In  
>>> any
>>> case, it really sounds terribly complicated and wrong to do it, and
>>> not at all like a correct answer, while the other 3 all sound  
>>> right to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> But - maybe it's just me, so help me out: please give me a better
>>> suggestion for a) if you think it is not yet far enough from the
>>> truth....
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss at mx.jevelopers.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> how "hard you have to push" depends on what "register" and "Managed
>>>> Bean" really means.
>>>> But let's say we have a d) which allows me to register Managed  
>>>> Beans
>>>> dynamically, then you could have groovy code in your view  
>>>> definition,
>>>> that gets executed and registers the MB.
>>>> While I am pretty sure, this is something I don't want to see in  
>>>> any
>>>> view definition I have to work with, it would still be possible.
>>>> (About using groovy in the view-definition see:
>>>> http://blog.jevelopers.com/archives/4-Project-Frisco-started.html)
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Imre
>>>>
>>>> On 18.12.2009, at 00:30, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Imre,
>>>>>
>>>>> d) is certainly valid with more than one bean container right now.
>>>>> In
>>>>> which context is a) valid? Never heard of anything like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think potential exam-takers will read this list, if they
>>>>> do, I
>>>>> think it's ok if they pass the exam ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/09, Imre Osswald <ioss at mx.jevelopers.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If d) is valid and you push hard enough you can make a) valid  
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my actual question is, if we publish the questions and  
>>>>>> answers
>>>>>> here on an open list, will they still be usable in an exam? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imre
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17.12.2009, at 16:37, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would have said that b, c and d are all three valid answers.
>>>>>>> Can't
>>>>>>> we have multiple valid answers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/17/09, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Geary
>>>>>>>> <clarity.training at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/12/17 Martin Marinschek <mmarinschek at apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I won't chime in for the distractors, but here my question:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How can you register a managed bean with JSF2?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a) Using groovy in the view definition
>>>>>>>>>> b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file
>>>>>>>>>> c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean
>>>>>>>>>> d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> c) ... (@ManagedBean or @Named)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>>>
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