[rules-dev] Re: [drools-dev] 3.2 M1

[Michael Neale]

It is more common, hopefully over time education and tooling will make it
clearer of the benefits of "the right way", but there seems to be a law that
says turing complete environments/languages will be used for ANYTHING (and
its true from my experience).

On 1/13/07, Peter Lin <woolfel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> haha, users already do the right thing :)
>
> so no one ever needs to worry about a rule being 5 pages with deeply
> nested and/or.  Joking aside, I am quite shocked at how frequent users do
> it. In fact, I would say it's like half the time, users do stupid things
> like that.
>
> then they bring in a consultant, who fixes the pile of mess.
>
> peter
>
> On 1/13/07, Michael Neale <michael.neale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > yes, well just cause you can, doesn't mean you should... ;)
> >
> > I think its needed for the first order logic stuff like not, exists,
> > forall, *occasionally* (especially "not" I have often wanted it), but should
> > only be used as a light seasoning.
> >
> > On 1/12/07, Peter Lin < woolfel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > oh the horror of users nesting statements 4-10 deep.
> > >
> > > I fear the poor user won't know what the heck they wrote the next day
> > > :)
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > > On 1/12/07, Edson Tirelli < tirelli at post.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >    Except for the need to change code target to 1.5, core and
> > > > compiler
> > > > are compiling fine now and all tests are green.
> > > >
> > > >    I just commited the new Builders. We now support any level of
> > > > Conditional Elements nesting.
> > > >
> > > >    Forall is just syntax sugar that I will add now. Shall be ok on
> > > > monday.
> > > >
> > > >    So, I think the major requirement for M1 is the MVEL stuff.
> > > >
> > > >    []s
> > > >    Edson
> > > >
> > > > Michael Neale wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > lol ! other then 3.0.x branch ?? ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Edson may know a branch to use, but in any case, Mark is beavering
> > > > > away on MVEL integration which will be awesome (I think he wants
> > > > MVEL
> > > > > for an M1 release).
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/12/07, *Dirk Bergstrom* < dirk at juniper.net
> > > > > <mailto: dirk at juniper.net>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >     Michael Neale was heard to exclaim, On 01/02/07 05:28:
> > > > >     > Guys, I am ok to do a M1 release of 3.2  whenever needed
> > > > >
> > > > >     Any news on this?  I've been running (in production now) on
> > > > code I
> > > > >     pulled from
> > > > >     trunk a month or so ago, and it throws NPEs now and
> > > > again.  I'd
> > > > >     really like to
> > > > >     get something a bit more stable.  Today's trunk "revision
> > > > 8842"
> > > > >     doesn't build,
> > > > >     because the mvel code is Java 1.5.
> > > > >
> > > > >     I'm kinda stuck here, and I'm hoping that someone can throw me
> > > > a
> > > > >     bone.  If M1
> > > > >     isn't coming soon, was there a particular revision number that
> > > > was
> > > > >     fairly stable
> > > > >     that I can use?
> > > > >
> > > > >     --
> > > > >     Dirk Bergstrom               dirk at juniper.net
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