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Michael Neale michael.neale at gmail.com
Wed Feb 28 23:01:28 EST 2007


I could be mistaken, but if you use
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.drools.user then it will include the
old stuff as well, the gmane people kindly migrated the old data to the new
list.

On 3/1/07, Rahul Phadnis <rahul.phadnis at fatspaniel.com> wrote:
>
> I understand that the jboss rules mailing list
> migrated to the current server recently.
>
> Can somebody tell me where can I find archives from
> the previous mailing list?
>
> -Rahul
>
> --- Edson Tirelli <tirelli at post.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >    Alexander,
> >
> >    Seems a really interesting project indeed!
> >    Trying to answer:
> >
> > 1. I'm not sure what you mean by "rule hierarchy".
> > Drools does not
> > support rule "inheritence" if that is what you mean
> > by hierarchy... can
> > you please ellaborate?
> >
> > 2. Dynamically adding rules to a rulebase will not
> > force a full
> > reevaluation. Only the new rules are evaluated and
> > if they eventually
> > have Patterns that may be shared, they are not even
> > evaluated, as they
> > already were.
> >
> >    The problem I think you will face is that Drools
> > does not support
> > uncertanty reasoning. You will need to code
> > uncertanty by hand if you
> > use drools. I suggest you a POC to check how it
> > goes.
> >
> >    []s
> >    Edson
> >
> > Alexander Richter wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I work in a bioinformatics group and we're
> > interested in using Drools
> > > for setting up an assertion engine for biological
> > processes.
> > > We have over 300 genomes ( == sets of facts), each
> > with upwards of
> > > 10K genes/features with annotations ( == facts).
> > We want to be able
> > > to predict whether various biological processes
> > exist, based on
> > > presence of the annotated genes that are the
> > components of the
> > > process. Asserted processes are not black and
> > white; we may have
> > > various levels of certainty, based on the
> > percentage of component
> > > genes found (because we can't be certain that not
> > finding a certain
> > > annotation means the the gene isn't in the genome
> > -- it could mean
> > > that we just didn't find it). In addition,
> > processes tend to be
> > > composed of sub-processes. The assertions then get
> > used to make
> > > additional annotations on the features, which we
> > then use to help us
> > > look for missing components. Therefore, we need to
> > be able to display
> > > the decisions that led to a specific assertion, as
> > well as the
> > > features that went into the component assertions.
> > > In addition, we regularly add new processes, as we
> > get new ways to
> > > annotate genes, or read about newly worked-out
> > processes. We really
> > > don't want to have to run all rules against all
> > the genomes every
> > > time we add a new rule, but just add that rule.
> > >
> > > We would like to define the actual rules for the
> > assertions in
> > > Drools, but don't know how we would do certain
> > parts.
> > > 1) Can one walk through the rule hierarchy from a
> > given rule and
> > > tease out the hierarchy of rules and the facts
> > that went into that rule?
> > > 2) Is it possible to add a rule, or set of
> > interacting rules, and
> > > have them incrementally evaluated, instead of
> > forcing full
> > > evaluation? Alternatively, can the rulesets be
> > individually defined
> > > and run in such a way that they interact?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexander Richter
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> >
> >
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