[webbeans-dev] Re: suggestion for Web Beans regarding @Named

[Dan Allen]

jsr-299-comments at jcp.org right? If so, no need to reply because that
is where I directed the suggestion. However, if that isn't correct,
let me know what is and I will redirect the e-mail.

-Dan

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
> Send the suggestion to the web beans EG.
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>> That's really not a bad idea.
>>
>> whoohoo!
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You could put the @Named annotation on package-info.java to have it
>>>> apply to an entire package. In that case, you could go one of two
>>>> directions. You could either say that a @Named on package-info.java
>>>> enables qualified names for uses of @Named in that package OR you
>>>> could say that it just acts as a setting, in which case you would
>>>> still need @Named(qualified = true). Personally, I like the first way.
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps a better idea is some archive-level setting to change the behavior
>>>>> of @Named. Not sure...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah, I hate it, but it probably does make sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send the proposal to the web beans group, I suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Gavin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a suggestion for Web Beans regarding the convention used by the
>>>>>>> @Named annotation. The nice part about this annotation is that it
>>>>>>> doesn't require the use of a string value to create a name that maps
>>>>>>> to the class name. In ~80% of cases, that is what people would do
>>>>>>> anyway. However, for framework builders, I can see them wanting to
>>>>>>> create fully-qualified names like in Seam to avoid naming conflicts.
>>>>>>> Would it be reasonable to propose adding an attribute to the @Named
>>>>>>> annotation that indicates the Java package should be prepended to the
>>>>>>> calculated name?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Named(qualified = true)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would avoid people slipping into the non-type safe pattern of:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Named("org.jboss.seam.core.expressions")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Dan Allen
>>>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Dan Allen
>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan Allen
>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>
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Dan Allen
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