[webbeans-dev] Re: suggestion for Web Beans regarding @Named

Fri Nov 7 01:55:54 EST 2008

Yes, your first suggestion got thru, but not the one about the package
annotation.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
> jsr-299-comments at jcp.org right? If so, no need to reply because that
> is where I directed the suggestion. However, if that isn't correct,
> let me know what is and I will redirect the e-mail.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>> Send the suggestion to the web beans EG.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>> That's really not a bad idea.
>>>
>>> whoohoo!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You could put the @Named annotation on package-info.java to have it
>>>>> apply to an entire package. In that case, you could go one of two
>>>>> directions. You could either say that a @Named on package-info.java
>>>>> enables qualified names for uses of @Named in that package OR you
>>>>> could say that it just acts as a setting, in which case you would
>>>>> still need @Named(qualified = true). Personally, I like the first way.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps a better idea is some archive-level setting to change the behavior
>>>>>> of @Named. Not sure...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah, I hate it, but it probably does make sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send the proposal to the web beans group, I suppose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Gavin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a suggestion for Web Beans regarding the convention used by the
>>>>>>>> @Named annotation. The nice part about this annotation is that it
>>>>>>>> doesn't require the use of a string value to create a name that maps
>>>>>>>> to the class name. In ~80% of cases, that is what people would do
>>>>>>>> anyway. However, for framework builders, I can see them wanting to
>>>>>>>> create fully-qualified names like in Seam to avoid naming conflicts.
>>>>>>>> Would it be reasonable to propose adding an attribute to the @Named
>>>>>>>> annotation that indicates the Java package should be prepended to the
>>>>>>>> calculated name?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Named(qualified = true)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would avoid people slipping into the non-type safe pattern of:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Named("org.jboss.seam.core.expressions")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dan Allen
>>>>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Dan Allen
>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>>
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>>> Dan Allen
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>>>
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