[webbeans-dev] Fwd: static producers

[Chris Dempsey]

I don't see a problem with that at all.  Just not supporting static method
specialization it seems to be the best choice to me.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:

> Hi Chris.
>
> What I'm thinking is simply to not define/support specialization for
> static producers.
>
> I think that's fine....
>
> Do you see a problem with that?
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Chris Dempsey <cdallas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all.  I've been a lurker on the list for a while and have been reading
> > and studying the spec like a mad man.  If I go off the rails here feel
> free
> > to let me know. :)
> >
> > The only thing I can think of as a possible issue with this is Web Bean
> > specialization?  Static methods cannot be overridden and only hidden by
> > sub-classes and the declared type (any actual instance is ignored) is
> used
> > to resolve which static method is called.  If you had a static
> > Foo#producerMethod and a specialization of a static
> MockFoo#producerMethod
> > Web Beans would have to know to call MockFoo.producerMethod and couldn't
> > rely on Foo.producerMethod to resolve polymorphically to the specialized
> > producer method.
> >
> > I don't think it would be a problem that couldn't be overcome but it
> would
> > seem to complicate the specialization rules quite a bit.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Gavin King <gavin at hibernate.org>
> >> Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM
> >> Subject: static producers
> >> To: Java Community Process JSR #299 Expert List <JSR-299-EG at jcp.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> Question:
> >>
> >> should we allow producer methods and fields to be declared "static"?
> >>
> >> This would mean that the Web Bean manager does not need to instantiate
> >> an instance of the Web Bean that declares the producer method/field
> >> when invoking the method/field.
> >>
> >> I can't think of a good reason why *not*...
> >>
> >> Furthermore, should we allow static observer and disposal methods?
> >> Again, I can't quite think of a reason why *not*...
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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