[aerogear-dev] Modularization and Push

Tue Apr 1 10:34:04 EDT 2014

"Several" is very accurate :) I would say so that 99% of the companies
disagree on that

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Miguel Lemos <miguel21op at gmail.com> wrote:

> +"disable push notifications"  +"battery life" +"android" > Google, for
> instance (I presume you use this).
>
> There are also several companies clamming that their push notifications
> services (including geo-fencing) drain less battery, etc., etc.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org>wrote:
>
>> Miguel, do you have any references? If there are hundreds posts about it,
>> I would love to read.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Miguel Lemos <miguel21op at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> That's not the experience we have... There are hundreds (thousands?) of
>>> posts about this matter. There are several strategies to keep the processor
>>> alive to do its work and Android (using GCM) minimizes the overload, it's
>>> more or less a consensual idea. You'll find in the Internet several
>>> articles about this too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On 04/01/2014 09:22 AM, Miguel Lemos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?! I can do it worse: uninstall the app because it drains the battery.
>>>>
>>>> Push messages don't drain the battery that much.  They all come in over
>>>> the GCM socket which is refresh every 15 minutes or so.
>>>>
>>>> Keeping an open socket doesn't drain the battery that badly.  IN a
>>>> (contrived) experiment I had a socket which sent a packet every 5 minutes
>>>> to the device.  Over the course of 5 hours the app didn't even register on
>>>> things which had drained the battery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/31/2014 02:03 PM, Miiguel Lemos wrote:
>>>>> > Using the GCM for push notifications has a very important advantage:
>>>>> it minimizes the battery consumption, since it reduces the processor
>>>>> overload, it's not needed to open a socket to check the server on a regular
>>>>> basis, etc. In my opinion this a critical matter, minimizing the
>>>>> probability of the user turning the notifications off.
>>>>>  On Android you can't turn notifications off in the same way as iOS.
>>>>>  >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Enviado do meu iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No dia 31/03/2014, às 18:51, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I would vote for A
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> abstractj
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On March 31, 2014 at 10:59:01 AM, Summers Pittman (
>>>>> supittma at redhat.com) wrote:
>>>>> >>>> Y'all,
>>>>> >>> So there has been some concerns with the complexity of the build
>>>>> >>> especially where including the Google GCM (push) libraries
>>>>> >>> are
>>>>> >>> concerned. Additionally there have been some requests for a
>>>>> >>> separate
>>>>> >>> "push" module which won't need the full aerogear android library.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The full modularization of the library along with several other
>>>>> >>> improvements is scheduled for the "2.0" epic.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> So my question is a) Should we make a 2.0 which is only the
>>>>> >>> modularization sooner and iterate on that a few times before
>>>>> >>> we include
>>>>> >>> our improvements in a 3.0 or b) Should we create a "fork" project
>>>>> >>> which
>>>>> >>> is only a push module? This new project will get merged back into
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> main project when we have our complete modularizations.
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