[aerogear-dev] Modularization and Push

Tue Apr 1 11:04:42 EDT 2014

Whatever. If you think power consumption is not a matter of concern on choosing a push notifications technology (as well as other mobile services) what can I do? 

Enviado do meu iPhone

No dia 01/04/2014, às 15:34, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org> escreveu:

> "Several" is very accurate :) I would say so that 99% of the companies disagree on that
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>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Miguel Lemos <miguel21op at gmail.com> wrote:
>> +"disable push notifications"  +"battery life" +"android" > Google, for instance (I presume you use this).
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>> There are also several companies clamming that their push notifications services (including geo-fencing) drain less battery, etc., etc.
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>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org> wrote:
>>> Miguel, do you have any references? If there are hundreds posts about it, I would love to read.
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>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Miguel Lemos <miguel21op at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> That's not the experience we have... There are hundreds (thousands?) of posts about this matter. There are several strategies to keep the processor alive to do its work and Android (using GCM) minimizes the overload, it's more or less a consensual idea. You'll find in the Internet several articles about this too.
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>>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/01/2014 09:22 AM, Miguel Lemos wrote:
>>>>>> ?! I can do it worse: uninstall the app because it drains the battery.
>>>>> Push messages don't drain the battery that much.  They all come in over the GCM socket which is refresh every 15 minutes or so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keeping an open socket doesn't drain the battery that badly.  IN a (contrived) experiment I had a socket which sent a packet every 5 minutes to the device.  Over the course of 5 hours the app didn't even register on things which had drained the battery.
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/31/2014 02:03 PM, Miiguel Lemos wrote:
>>>>>>> > Using the GCM for push notifications has a very important advantage: it minimizes the battery consumption, since it reduces the processor overload, it's not needed to open a socket to check the server on a regular basis, etc. In my opinion this a critical matter, minimizing the probability of the user turning the notifications off.
>>>>>>> On Android you can't turn notifications off in the same way as iOS.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Enviado do meu iPad
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>>>>>>> > No dia 31/03/2014, às 18:51, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I would vote for A
>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>>> >> abstractj
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On March 31, 2014 at 10:59:01 AM, Summers Pittman (supittma at redhat.com) wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> Y'all,
>>>>>>> >>> So there has been some concerns with the complexity of the build
>>>>>>> >>> especially where including the Google GCM                 (push) libraries
>>>>>>> >>> are
>>>>>>> >>> concerned. Additionally there have been some requests for a
>>>>>>> >>> separate
>>>>>>> >>> "push" module which won't need the full aerogear android library.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> The full modularization of the library along with several other
>>>>>>> >>> improvements is scheduled for the "2.0" epic.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> So my question is a) Should we make a 2.0 which is only the
>>>>>>> >>> modularization sooner and iterate on that a few times before
>>>>>>> >>> we include
>>>>>>> >>> our improvements in a 3.0 or b) Should we create a "fork" project
>>>>>>> >>> which
>>>>>>> >>> is only a push module? This new project will get merged back into
>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>> >>> main project when we have our complete modularizations.
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