[cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
John D. Ament
john.d.ament at gmail.com
Tue Jun 21 17:04:45 EDT 2016
If we're going to do Friday, I need to know by EOD (business) CET tomorrow.
John
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com> wrote:
> I can do Friday but not Monday. In the meanwhile, I'll go through the code
> changes to add any comments I have.
>
> Many thanks,
> Emily
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> From: Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
> To: cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>,
> Date: 21/06/2016 16:33
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
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> As I don't have audio where I am during the day, only Friday (when I leave
> earlier in most cases) would work for me.
>
> Werner
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:13:54 +0000
> From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
> To: "John D. Ament" <*john.d.ament at gmail.com* <john.d.ament at gmail.com>>,
> Martin Kouba
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> So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
> meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
> I can do both but prefer Monday.
>
> What is your choice?
>
> Antoine
>
> Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament at gmail.com*
> <john.d.ament at gmail.com>> a
> ?crit :
>
> > I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
> > areas of open discussion still:
> >
> > - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
> > agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
> > - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
> > first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
> > any concerns with that change.
> > - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
> > like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make
> > sure we can bridge from existing)
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
> <mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
> >>
> >> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
> >> presence is not required.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
> >> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
> now
> >> > is the only day I have open.
> >> >
> >> > What about next week? Monday?
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
> <mkouba at redhat.com>
> >> > <mailto:*mkouba at redhat.com* <mkouba at redhat.com>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
> >> >
> >> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
> >> >
> >> > What I particularly dislike:
> >> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
> >> > * the concept of the context id
> >> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
> >> method/class
> >> > for each supported scope)
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find
> >> out
> >> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
> >> believe we
> >> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
> >> complex
> >> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
> >> >
> >> > Martin
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> >
> >>
> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts*
> <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
> >> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
> >> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
> >> > >
> >> > > LieGrue,
> >> > > strub
> >> > >
> >> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >> > <*antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net> <mailto:
> *antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>>:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi all,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
> >> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
> >> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291*
> <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
> >> > this week.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Antoine
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
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> >> > --
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> From: "John D. Ament" <*john.d.ament at gmail.com* <john.d.ament at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
> To: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
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> Monday is better for me but I can do both.
> On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>
> wrote:
>
> > So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
> > meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
> > I can do both but prefer Monday.
> >
> > What is your choice?
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> > Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament at gmail.com*
> <john.d.ament at gmail.com>> a
> > ?crit :
> >
> >> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
> >> areas of open discussion still:
> >>
> >> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
> >> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
> >> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
> >> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
> >> any concerns with that change.
> >> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
> >> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
> make
> >> sure we can bridge from existing)
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
> <mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
> >>>
> >>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
> >>> presence is not required.
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
> >>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
> >>> now
> >>> > is the only day I have open.
> >>> >
> >>> > What about next week? Monday?
> >>> >
> >>> > John
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
> <mkouba at redhat.com>
> >>> > <mailto:*mkouba at redhat.com* <mkouba at redhat.com>>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > What I particularly dislike:
> >>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
> >>> > * the concept of the context id
> >>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
> >>> method/class
> >>> > for each supported scope)
> >>> >
> >>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
> find
> >>> out
> >>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
> >>> believe we
> >>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
> >>> complex
> >>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
> >>> >
> >>> > Martin
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>>
> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts*
> <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
> >>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
> >>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > LieGrue,
> >>> > > strub
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >>> > <*antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net> <mailto:
> *antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>>:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hi all,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
> >>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
> >>> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291*
> <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
> >>> > this week.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Antoine
> >>> > >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >> cdi-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> *cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org> <mailto:
> *cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>>
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