[cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
Antoine Sabot-Durand
antoine at sabot-durand.net
Wed Jun 22 05:00:53 EDT 2016
Majority is for Friday so let's do this on Friday. I send an invitation to
all people on this thread and on PR discussion.
Antoine
Le mar. 21 juin 2016 à 23:05, John D. Ament <john.d.ament at gmail.com> a
écrit :
> If we're going to do Friday, I need to know by EOD (business) CET tomorrow.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> I can do Friday but not Monday. In the meanwhile, I'll go through the
>> code changes to add any comments I have.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Emily
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>> From: Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
>> To: cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>,
>> Date: 21/06/2016 16:33
>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
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>> As I don't have audio where I am during the day, only Friday (when I
>> leave earlier in most cases) would work for me.
>>
>> Werner
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>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:13:54 +0000
>> From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
>> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
>> To: "John D. Ament" <*john.d.ament at gmail.com* <john.d.ament at gmail.com>>,
>> Martin Kouba
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>> So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
>> meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
>> I can do both but prefer Monday.
>>
>> What is your choice?
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament at gmail.com*
>> <john.d.ament at gmail.com>> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>> > I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
>> > areas of open discussion still:
>> >
>> > - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
>> > agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
>> > - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
>> > first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
>> > any concerns with that change.
>> > - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
>> > like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
>> make
>> > sure we can bridge from existing)
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
>> <mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
>> >>
>> >> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
>> >> presence is not required.
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
>> >> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
>> now
>> >> > is the only day I have open.
>> >> >
>> >> > What about next week? Monday?
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
>> <mkouba at redhat.com>
>> >> > <mailto:*mkouba at redhat.com* <mkouba at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > What I particularly dislike:
>> >> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
>> >> > * the concept of the context id
>> >> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
>> >> method/class
>> >> > for each supported scope)
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
>> find
>> >> out
>> >> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
>> >> believe we
>> >> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
>> >> complex
>> >> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
>> >> >
>> >> > Martin
>> >> >
>> >> > [1]
>> >> >
>> >>
>> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts*
>> <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
>> >> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
>> >> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > LieGrue,
>> >> > > strub
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
>> >> > <*antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net> <mailto:
>> *antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>>:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Hi all,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
>> >> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
>> >> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291*
>> <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
>> >> > this week.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Antoine
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>> From: "John D. Ament" <*john.d.ament at gmail.com* <john.d.ament at gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
>> To: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
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>> Monday is better for me but I can do both.
>> On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <*antoine at sabot-durand.net*
>> <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
>> > meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
>> > I can do both but prefer Monday.
>> >
>> > What is your choice?
>> >
>> > Antoine
>> >
>> > Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament at gmail.com*
>> <john.d.ament at gmail.com>> a
>> > ?crit :
>> >
>> >> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
>> >> areas of open discussion still:
>> >>
>> >> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
>> >> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help
>> IMHO.
>> >> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
>> >> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there
>> are
>> >> any concerns with that change.
>> >> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
>> >> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
>> make
>> >> sure we can bridge from existing)
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
>> <mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
>> >>>
>> >>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
>> >>> presence is not required.
>> >>>
>> >>> Martin
>> >>>
>> >>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
>> >>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
>> >>> now
>> >>> > is the only day I have open.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What about next week? Monday?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > John
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba at redhat.com*
>> <mkouba at redhat.com>
>> >>> > <mailto:*mkouba at redhat.com* <mkouba at redhat.com>>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What I particularly dislike:
>> >>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
>> >>> > * the concept of the context id
>> >>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
>> >>> method/class
>> >>> > for each supported scope)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
>> find
>> >>> out
>> >>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
>> >>> believe we
>> >>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
>> >>> complex
>> >>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Martin
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [1]
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts*
>> <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
>> >>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
>> >>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > LieGrue,
>> >>> > > strub
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
>> >>> > <*antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net> <mailto:
>> *antoine at sabot-durand.net* <antoine at sabot-durand.net>>>:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Hi all,
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
>> >>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
>> >>> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291*
>> <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291>
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I
>> am
>> >>> > this week.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Antoine
>> >>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>> <mailto:*cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>>
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