[forge-dev] WindowBlu for Forge

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

On Nov 17, 2011, at 01:32, Mike Brock wrote:

> Unlike you, I'm not opposed to plugins that interact with low-level aspects of Forge. I think there's really two different classes of plugins for Forge:
> 
> 1) Code comprehension and enhancement plugins.
> 2) Plugins which enhance the Forge environment itself.
> 
> The plugin I showed here fits into category two. 

I don't have anything against the creation of such plugins - what worries me is if/when category #1 depends on category #2 in a way that will prevent #1 from work well everywhere.

One way to avoid that is that what they provide is done at a bit higher level than low-level operations.

/max

> 
> On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> 
>>> That's what the ShellMessages utility is for.
>>> 
>>> ShellMessages.error(shell, "my error message");
>> 
>> Yes I know - but it came about later … ;)
>> 
>> just an example of the API plugins get exposed to, should be a bit more high-level than manipulate shell colors and buffers.
>> 
>> /max
>> 
>>> 
>>> We could think about how best to unify this, but we are trying to keep Shell a bit cleaner.
>>> 
>>> ~Lincoln
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> It's cool - but I was really hoping such things as direct/raw text control/buffer output would not be exposed or at least not be the norm that plugins uses/depends on it.
>>> 
>>> It still annoys me to see forge plugins that does shell.print(Color.RED, "blah blah") instead of shell.error("blah blah")
>>> 
>>> /max
>>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2011, at 17:04, Mike Brock wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Internally, there is a new concept known as a BufferManager. Essentially the idea is that a plugin can create it's own sub-buffer to the main shell buffer.
>>>> 
>>>> When WindowBlu loads, it registers its own buffer with the Shell, taking control of the display buffer so it can intercept and translate all the ANSI -- as well as pre-buffer repainting of the titlebar to minimize flickering, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike.
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Koen Aers wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, the windowblu command shuts down Forge Tools. I'll take a closer look at what can be done to support it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Koen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think you forgot the video :) this is awesome!
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQp_N-gGDzk
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Mike Brock <cbrock at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> So, I've been back working on Forge Core -- scripting and internal API improvements. One thing that upset me was that Forge lacked a sub-buffering facility for console output, so you could intercept console output and do fun stuff like add a status bar. Well, Forge has this limitation no longer -- at least not in my branch (https://github.com/mikebrock/core)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Haven't pushed the changes upstream, mainly because I don't know if they break JBoss Tools or not -- pretty sure they don't break anything else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyways, here's my first demo plugin that takes advantage of these new features in the shell API: https://github.com/mikebrock/core
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike.
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