[forge-dev] What to do about our little Windows joke...?

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Tue Jul 24 16:05:01 EDT 2012

Jevgeni, your main objections seems to be about the frequency of the joke
as well. Any joke repeated over and over becomes annoying, so at the very
least if we reduced it to a single "easter egg" (first run) then it won't
be a constant irritant for those who don't find it funny.

IMO, the 90% Windows usage doesn't really change the purpose of the joke.
The Windows command line is just bizarre. There are tons of other options
Windows users have to use a real terminal, such as cygwin, Gow or a virtual
machine. Honestly, I still don't understand why people use the Windows
command line. But, that's just my opinion :)


On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Jevgeni Zelenkov <
jevgeni.zelenkov at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I saw that thread and wanted to add it to tomorrow's forge meeting
> agenda I am fine discussing it here too.
> After working mostly under windows I also tend to find it offending
> too see "Windows? Really?" joke every time I start forge. Maybe I take
> it too personal but the fact that I'm using windows should not imply
> that I'm a worse person/user/developer. Maybe I am misinterpreting it
> but this is how it feels to me. Besides, windows is the most popular
> OS (I think it has about 90% of the OS market share) so it means that
> most of the users will see that. Even if not everybody will take that
> personal it still can make a lot of people unhappy by using forge. And
> we want happy users, don't we?
> I also see it every time I run "forge source-plugin" command. I swear
> to god it's one of the reasons I am considering buying a mac asap :)
> That said, after I deleted "Windows? Really?" joke from
> ~/.forge/config it suddenly started to FEEL better working with forge.
> Unreasonable emotions? Yes, absolutely. But that's how human beings
> work.
> I don't mind having geeky/nerdy jokes like "still 32-bit" or "sun
> still makes java" but only if there is an option/flag to turn them
> off. I guess jvm vendor or 32/64-bit OS versions are not one of those
> holywar topics, like windows vs mac, java vs c#, etc etc etc.
> Best regards,
> Jevgeni
> P.S.
> Wow, looks like I'm the only antagonist in here so far :S
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III
> <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey everyone... we've recently gotten some critical feedback about our
> > little "Windows? Really? Ok..." joke.
> >
> > https://community.jboss.org/message/749952#749952
> >
> > What are your thoughts? Perhaps we could make this a little less
> targeted by
> > turning it into more of a pluggable feature, where different messages
> show
> > up randomly based on runtime conditions?
> >
> > Like sometimes it might say, "Just 32 bits?" or "Sun still makes Java?"
> or
> > "Linux... nice... does your family know?" or "OSX? What is a lion,
> anyway?"
> >
> > Would like to hear ideas. But I certainly don't want to give up the
> > character :)
> >
> > --
> > Lincoln Baxter, III
> > http://ocpsoft.org
> > "Simpler is better."
> >
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Dan Allen
Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
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