[forge-dev] Forge 2.0 and OSGi

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Mon Sep 24 20:23:25 EDT 2012

...which is pretty consistent with my point as well. It's too
over-engineered (as are the arguments as to why it isn't) for low-level
containers. But the need (to live in this world) is nothing a layer of
abstraction can't satiate :)


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM, JFlower <fiorenzino at gmail.com> wrote:

> i remember this post:
> I've rarely in my life met a more overengineered, overcomplex spec than
> OSGi. Compatibility with OSGi should be an anti-requirement in any sane
> world.
> Unfortunately we live in this world :-(
> Gavin King
> [http://in.relation.to/22155.lace]
> Fiorenzo
> PS i never used osgi in my jee apps, and i hate my eclipse when i need
> to restart it after a plugin installation...
> 2012/9/25 <ggastald at redhat.com>
>>  Hello,
>> I've been done some thinking and researching for Forge 2.0 based on the
>> last forge meeting we had and the current code in the 2.0 branch, and it
>> seems that the architecture we're looking for is very close to OSGi
>> architecture itself (regarding to plugability and modularity).
>> I'm also afraid that we'll face the same problems that OSGi tries to
>> solve. As my current experience with OSGi is next to minimal (and probably
>> to better understand why and have some arguments if someone asks me about
>> it), I would like some opinions about the advantages/disadvantages of why
>> not having the Forge container as an OSGi compliant solution.
>> Also, don't get me wrong: I am not trying to convince anyone of using
>> OSGi into the forge core, just want to understand better why this
>> architecture is not a viable solution so far. I know Lincoln is against
>> using it, but I just want some arguments in case someone asks me in
>> conferences and stuff :)
>> Of course, we need to keep using CDI and annotations as well. So if it's
>> possible to have that and at the same time the modularity (and plugability)
>> offered by OSGi, it would be awesome.
>> Looking forward for your answers !
>> Best Regards,
>> --
>> *George Gastaldi* | *Senior Software Engineer*
>> JBoss Forge Team
>> Red Hat
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Dan Allen
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