[forge-dev] Forge 2.0 and OSGi

Ivan St. Ivanov ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com
Wed Sep 26 08:53:42 EDT 2012

Hi Max,

About your "server" question in the last sentence. If you refer to my post,
I was trying to make an analogy:

server <-> applications == Forge core <-> Forge plugins

Please, let us not go to p2, tycho and Equinox? :-)

I think that the most unobtrusive OSGi for Forge would be the bnd stuff
described by Paul. However, I am not sure how does bnd restrict the number
of exported packages by a plugin. If it exports everything, then why do we
use OSGi at all?


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:

> >> Hi Paul !
> >>
> >> I watched your presentation and I found it very nice. As in Forge 2.0,
> we are totally rewriting the core, so full backward compatibility shouldn't
> be possible in a first glance.
> >>
> >> Lincoln already started something in the 2.0 branch using JBoss Modules
> and also started to hack it a little deeper.
> >>
> >> As for me, I am also not a big fan of JBM, probably because it may be
> lacking some reference docs, which leads to deep diving into the code
> itself to better understand it.
> >>
> >> In terms of being future-proof, OSGi might sound a better path to go.
> However I am afraid that we may be wanting to kill a mosquito with a
> cannon, or in other words, trying to cram a technology which may hinder the
> adoption on Forge in future versions.
> >>
> >> In case we adopt it, I hope that in the future this bnd plugin could be
> part of JBoss Tools and we could call it "Forge Developer Platform" or
> something :)
> would need someone to maintain work on it  and make sure it does not
> conflict with using tycho/p2 for osgi development which is the osgi tools
> used in eclipse land.
> note, Forge moving to osgi doesn't make it easier to use from JBoss Tools,
> it probably makes it harder - unless the choice is osgi equinox and
> something compatible with
> Eclipse plugins/osgi....
> btw. anyone able to outline me why forge 2 is needed and why the word
> "server" is now used for Forge ?
> /max
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