[forge-users] Scaffolding in Forge 2.x (was Beta5 next Monday ?)
Antonio Goncalves
antonio.mailing at gmail.com
Sat Jan 4 15:41:36 EST 2014
But if I take your definition :
> Scaffolding basically is code generation. Right now there is nothing
interactive or re-consumable about it.
Then, generating entities from an already existing database, is
scaffolding. So I expect a forge -i jpa-addon. Then I get a set of
entities, and with Forge I can cd the entity and do a jpa-new-field. In
this example I scaffold and then add something to a generated entity.
What's important in your sentence is "Right now". What if one day we
scaffold JSF pages and beans and we are able to cd a backing bean and do
jsf-new-field... then, there is no difference between JPA and JSF.
My point is that as a user, I don't understand why when I hit TAB, by
default, I can see jpa commands, but not JSF or REST commands. I need to
install addons for some, and it's already installed for others.
Maybe Forge should just be an empty shell (cd, ls, touch, man...) with no
extensions at all, and then I need to do a forge -i jpa-addon, forge -i
jsf-addon, forge -i rest-addon to get extensions.... and if I'm lazy and
just want to develop a Java EE app, I'll go forge -i javaee-addon.
My 2 cents
2014/1/4 Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>
> Hey Antonio!
>
> Again, more excellent feedback! Thank you!
>
> First, I really don't see the difference between scaffolding and code
>> generation (I've mention that before). So, for me, as a user,
>> jpa-new-entity is a command that generates code, just like
>> scaffold-generate. But if we clarify this, users might get use to it.
>
>
> Scaffolding basically is code generation. Right now there is nothing
> interactive or re-consumable about it.
>
> Regarding the fact that you weren't able to see anything about JSF. I
> believe this is likely due to this issue that we identified in Beta4 and
> have fixed and tested for .Final -->
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1407
>
> For example. This is still a bit strange because unless you have multiple
> scaffolds installed, you don't see the choice of scaffold type, but when I
> run scaffold setup in the latest SNAPSHOT, I see:
>
> *[*jpa-demo*]*$ scaffold-
>> scaffold-generate scaffold-setup
>> *[*jpa-demo*]*$ scaffold-setup --facesVersion 2.
>> 2.2 2.1 2.0
>> *[*jpa-demo*]*$ scaffold-setup --facesVersion 2.2
>
>
> Additionally, when I type `--provider` manually without using TAB
> completion, then TAB complete the value, I do see the provider option, so
> there may still be something wrong with the fix for FORGE-1407:
>
> *[*main*]*$ scaffold-setup --provider Faces
>
>
> ~Lincoln
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Antonio Goncalves <
> antonio.mailing at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scaffolding is really confusing. To scaffold my JSF pages I first need to
>> install scaffolding :
>>
>> forge -i scaffold
>>
>> And then, once in Forge I do :
>>
>> scaffold-setup
>> scaffold-generate --targets org.test.model.Customer
>>
>> And it generates JSF pages. Nowhere I see any mention of JSF in the
>> previous commands. These commands could have generated REST endpoint, EJBs,
>> AngularJS....
>>
>> First, I really don't see the difference between scaffolding and code
>> generation (I've mention that before). So, for me, as a user,
>> jpa-new-entity is a command that generates code, just like
>> scaffold-generate. But if we clarify this, users might get use to it.
>>
>> When I type forge -i scaffold, it installs plenty of stuff. Does this
>> mean it installs all the available scaffolding addons (JSF, REST,
>> AngularJS, Arquillian...) ? If not, I don't know what it installed. Why
>> don't we have :
>>
>> forge -i scaffold-jsf
>> forge -i scaffold-jpa
>> forge -i scaffold-rest
>> forge -i scaffold-soap
>>
>> or even better if we follow the new naming convention
>>
>> forge -i jsf-scaffold
>> forge -i jpa-scaffold
>> forge -i rest-scaffold
>> forge -i soap-scaffold
>>
>> Again, when I type scaffold-generate I really don't know what will
>> happen. Because scaffolding and generating are the same for me. So command
>> scaffold-generate sounds like generate-generate or scaffold-scaffold.
>> Why not having :
>>
>> jsf-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer
>> jpa-scaffold --dbName myDB --jdbcDriver org.apache.derby.Client
>> rest-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer
>> soap-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer
>>
>> What do you think ?
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/4 George Gastaldi <ggastald at redhat.com>
>>
>>> The JSF scaffold was not installed with core in Beta4. We fixed that for
>>> 2.0.0.Final. Run forge -i scaffold to install it.
>>>
>>> Worth to mention that the available commands only generate the REST
>>> resource for the entities, the JSF scaffold does not consume them.
>>>
>>> Em 04/01/2014, às 13:53, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> I can't see any command for REST of JSF scaffolding, so I suppose both
>>> are addons. How do I install these addons ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/4 George Gastaldi <ggastald at redhat.com>
>>>
>>>> REST generation from JPA entities is already functional too.
>>>> Use rest-setup and rest-endpoint-from-entity
>>>>
>>>> Em 04/01/2014, às 11:52, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing at gmail.com>
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Hum... I forgot, I also need REST scaffolding.... might be a bit tight
>>>> in schedule....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014/1/3 George Gastaldi <ggastald at redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Both issues are now fixed. JSF scaffolding is ready since Beta4.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could release Beta5 monday but as we said in the IRC, 2.0.0.Final
>>>>> is due in Jan 15th, so that's up to Lincoln.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 03/01/2014, às 19:04, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing at gmail.com>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi JBoss Forge Team,
>>>>>
>>>>> I should have mentioned that before, but next Tuesday (at the Lille
>>>>> JUG in France) and Thursday (London, GlassFish User Group), I'll be giving
>>>>> a talk on JBoss Forge. It's the same one I gave at JavaOne (
>>>>> http://blog.arungupta.me/2013/12/come-and-play-with-javaee7-javaone-2013-session/)
>>>>> but with few extra features.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm doing it with Forge 1.x.... but actually, the only missing bits to
>>>>> make it run with Forge 2.x are :
>>>>>
>>>>> * Bean Validation (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1393)
>>>>> * Java enums (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1400)
>>>>> * JSF scaffolding
>>>>>
>>>>> So I was just wondering if this would be available on Monday for a
>>>>> Beta5 so I could use it
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank
>>>>>
>>>>> (just joking ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Antonio Goncalves
>>>>> Software architect and Java Champion
>>>>>
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>> Antonio Goncalves
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>>
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