[hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community
Elhanan Maayan
elh.mailgate at gmail.com
Wed Apr 15 13:05:50 EDT 2009
"looking at the code which has a problem and fix it" sounds so simple :), it
did sound simple, until i got to working on a bug with sql generation and
had huge amount of time figuring out what went wrong, even now, after i
found the bug, i don't know if fixing it requires major refactoring or is it
something simpler then i'm missing.
yes, i know about the unitests, they scared me at first, when i first run
them after the initial download and saw failures, but i guess i didn't read
the results correctly because the hibernate-core project test went ok.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i don't see how
>> anyone outside jboss personal can actually create fixes (patches or commits)
>> without internal overview of hibernate. and jumping head first is actually
>> what a new developer in jboss would need to do, even if he did had prior
>> usage of hibernate. so either there are white papers kept in jboss for
>> their use only , or the information is pass down orally by a senior
>> developer.
>>
> There are no internal secret jboss documents - all the information is
> public. Many people are creating patches to hibernate in various areas by
> simply reading the code that is having a problem and fix it - of course for
> more detailed hardcore bugs more info is needed, but no written
> documentation would help you there - you would still need to look at the
> code to learn it.
>
> btw. I did not work for JBoss when I started contribute to Hibernate, and
> there are non-JBoss committers today too - the right to commit is earned by
> showing skill and drive; not by getting hired.
>
> to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year experience in java
>> j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown framework with no internal
>> overview documentation, and only oral info passed from previous developer,
>> and that's not nearly enough as fixes usually break something else.
>>
> Look at the unittests, if you break them you know you messed up - if they
> pass the chance of you having messed up is less ;)
>
> /max
>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com<mailto:
>> cbredesen at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Some observations on this thread:
>>
>> 1. You do not need m2eclipse. /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use
>> Maven 2 and will build straight away with "mvn compile".
>>
>> 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the command
>> line in the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn
>> idea:idea) and then import the projects. I understand that IDEA
>> reads Maven metadata natively but I cannot speak to that.
>>
>> 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit. This is what the
>> svn.jboss.org <http://svn.jboss.org/> server is for.
>> anonsvn.jboss.org <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> is a replica with
>> read-only privileges. Use this for now. You are free to open
>> JIRA tickets and attach patch files which will be reviewed by
>> Hibernate committers and possibly committed in a future release.
>>
>> 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated. It is not a trivial project to
>> jump into head-first. So please understand that there are many
>> ways to contribute:
>>
>> * Helping on the forums
>> * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions
>> * Improving the wiki
>> * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are
>> required
>>
>> Happy Hibernating,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> joy deep wrote:
>>
>> Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no idea about
>> depth .
>> Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!!
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan /<elh.mailgate at gmail.com
>> <mailto:elh.mailgate at gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailgate at gmail.com
>> <mailto:elh.mailgate at gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development
>> community
>> To: "joy deep" <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>
>> Cc: "Peter Harrison" <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>,
>> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM
>>
>> i've started a small blog http://osventure.wordpress.com/
>> about my
>> experiences with open source, documenting my attempts.
>> please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to
>> download the
>> code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project.
>> you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for
>> maven in
>> ~/m2 direcotry for jboss plugins
>> also after you downloaded the code you will encounter
>> huge amount of
>> compiler errors you will need to the following:
>> 1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to generate some
>> antlr files
>> that were not generated during the initial load
>> 2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to :
>> generated .class file compatibility to 1.4, source
>> compatibility : 1.4
>> 3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change the compiler
>> error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference (access rules) to
>> warning instead of error.
>> good luck getting your feet, personally i feel somewhat
>> drowning
>> when i'm trying to figure out this bug :
>> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856
>> personally i have no idea how anyone outside jboss can
>> even begin to
>> start modify the code without some white papers or
>> explanation on
>> the internal structure of hibernate.
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep
>> <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
>> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is there any SVN repository from where I can
>> download the
>> source codes, and set up my project in eclipse .Can you
>> also
>> give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to get my
>> feet wet
>> with the code soon . Thanks for replying.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison
>> /<peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>
>> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Harrison
>> <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>
>> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate
>> development community
>> To: bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
>> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>
>>
>> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM
>>
>> The ideal way to get involved is to download the
>> source and
>> get familiar with it first - if you have not
>> already. I am
>> here because I made some modifications to hibernate
>> for my
>> own project and want to contribute back. The best
>> way to
>> start is to look at existing bug reports, write a
>> patch or
>> two and attach them to the ticket. Of course, I'm in a
>> similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active
>> committer
>> right now. I'm personally looking at issues which
>> affect me
>> - aka I don't want to be committing code for things
>> that I
>> am not having practical use for.
>>
>> 2009/4/12 <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
>> <http://mc/compose?to=bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am new to hibernate development
>> community though
>> I have been using the the product for some time
>> now , I
>> would like to be a part of this wonderful
>> product how
>> can I get on with it .
>> Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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