[hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community
Max Rydahl Andersen
max.andersen at redhat.com
Tue Apr 14 12:51:26 EDT 2009
> i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i don't see
> how anyone outside jboss personal can actually create fixes (patches
> or commits) without internal overview of hibernate. and jumping head
> first is actually what a new developer in jboss would need to do, even
> if he did had prior usage of hibernate. so either there are white
> papers kept in jboss for their use only , or the information is pass
> down orally by a senior developer.
There are no internal secret jboss documents - all the information is
public. Many people are creating patches to hibernate in various areas
by simply reading the code that is having a problem and fix it - of
course for more detailed hardcore bugs more info is needed, but no
written documentation would help you there - you would still need to
look at the code to learn it.
btw. I did not work for JBoss when I started contribute to Hibernate,
and there are non-JBoss committers today too - the right to commit is
earned by showing skill and drive; not by getting hired.
> to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year experience in
> java j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown framework with no
> internal overview documentation, and only oral info passed from
> previous developer, and that's not nearly enough as fixes usually
> break something else.
Look at the unittests, if you break them you know you messed up - if
they pass the chance of you having messed up is less ;)
/max
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com
> <mailto:cbredesen at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Some observations on this thread:
>
> 1. You do not need m2eclipse. /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use
> Maven 2 and will build straight away with "mvn compile".
>
> 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the command
> line in the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn
> idea:idea) and then import the projects. I understand that IDEA
> reads Maven metadata natively but I cannot speak to that.
>
> 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit. This is what the
> svn.jboss.org <http://svn.jboss.org/> server is for.
> anonsvn.jboss.org <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> is a replica with
> read-only privileges. Use this for now. You are free to open
> JIRA tickets and attach patch files which will be reviewed by
> Hibernate committers and possibly committed in a future release.
>
> 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated. It is not a trivial project to
> jump into head-first. So please understand that there are many
> ways to contribute:
>
> * Helping on the forums
> * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions
> * Improving the wiki
> * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are
> required
>
> Happy Hibernating,
>
> Chris
>
> joy deep wrote:
>
> Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no idea about
> depth .
> Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!!
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan /<elh.mailgate at gmail.com
> <mailto:elh.mailgate at gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailgate at gmail.com
> <mailto:elh.mailgate at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development
> community
> To: "joy deep" <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>
> Cc: "Peter Harrison" <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>,
> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM
>
> i've started a small blog http://osventure.wordpress.com/
> about my
> experiences with open source, documenting my attempts.
> please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to
> download the
> code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project.
> you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for
> maven in
> ~/m2 direcotry for jboss plugins
> also after you downloaded the code you will encounter
> huge amount of
> compiler errors you will need to the following:
> 1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to generate some
> antlr files
> that were not generated during the initial load
> 2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to :
> generated .class file compatibility to 1.4, source
> compatibility : 1.4
> 3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change the compiler
> error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference (access rules) to
> warning instead of error.
> good luck getting your feet, personally i feel somewhat
> drowning
> when i'm trying to figure out this bug :
> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856
> personally i have no idea how anyone outside jboss can
> even begin to
> start modify the code without some white papers or
> explanation on
> the internal structure of hibernate.
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep
> <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Is there any SVN repository from where I can
> download the
> source codes, and set up my project in eclipse .Can you
> also
> give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to get my
> feet wet
> with the code soon . Thanks for replying.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison
> /<peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>
> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Peter Harrison
> <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>
> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
> <mailto:peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>>
>
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate
> development community
> To: bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>>
>
> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM
>
> The ideal way to get involved is to download the
> source and
> get familiar with it first - if you have not
> already. I am
> here because I made some modifications to hibernate
> for my
> own project and want to contribute back. The best
> way to
> start is to look at existing bug reports, write a
> patch or
> two and attach them to the ticket. Of course, I'm in a
> similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active
> committer
> right now. I'm personally looking at issues which
> affect me
> - aka I don't want to be committing code for things
> that I
> am not having practical use for.
>
> 2009/4/12 <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
> <mailto:bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
> <http://mc/compose?to=bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am new to hibernate development
> community though
> I have been using the the product for some time
> now , I
> would like to be a part of this wonderful
> product how
> can I get on with it .
> Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite
> them now.
> <http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> </mc/compose?to=hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>>
>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Get before others grab.
> <http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_dbid_9/*http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
More information about the hibernate-dev
mailing list