[hibernate-dev] missing reference documentation for Hibernate Search beta

Steve Ebersole steve at hibernate.org
Fri Mar 5 14:55:23 EST 2010


Wrt https://www.hibernate.org/5.html..  the plan is to eventually use 
index pages on docs.jboss.org/hibernate.  We have not to date simply 
because its way too difficult managing resource on that site.

Yes i would like to see is just the most recent docs indexed.   No clue 
how/if possible.

WRT the suggestion to use x.y.z I think we should be careful here.  I do 
not see benefit from keeping, say, 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.2.5, 3.2.6, 3.2.7 
docs all around.  IMO 3.2 is enough (latest 3.2 docs).

What is the thought process of /trunk ?  Nightly builds?  Perhaps we 
could do that just in english?  The build jobs already take long enough. 
  Maybe even just english/html or english/html_single.


On 03/05/2010 05:46 AM, Hardy Ferentschik wrote:
> As Emmanuel mentioned, we are currently only publishing the docs for GA
> releases.
> We used to have also the beta docs online, but stopped that due to the way
> the
> different docs would get indexed by Google.
>
> I agree with Sanne that we should upload the documentation for the beta
> releases.
> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/project/version works fine with me. Btw,
> Lucene also
> publishes multiple versions of their docs. Mind you, with Lucene I had
> actually cases
> were I needed some extra clicks and searching to get to the right version
> of the docs.
>
> One idea to solve the indexing problem would be to work with robots.txt.
> We could just
> disallow all beta documentations from indexing. This way only the latest
> GA release would
> be "searchable". For the beta docs we just provide some links from
> search.hibernate.org.
> There is already a robots file under http://www.jboss.org/robots.txt, but
> I am not sure how
> feasible it is with our current processes to get this file changed.
> Unfortunately, robots.txt
> does not allow wildcards or regular expressions, so we would have to
> explicitly exclude
> the versions we don't want to have indexed.
>
> Another problem with the documentation was that
> https://www.hibernate.org/5.html is complicated
> enough even without adding links to beta release docs. The good news is
> that with the new
> site (out soon hopefully) we will have a dedicated documentation page for
> Search where it would
> be much easier to provide some additional links.
>
> Regarding automated doc uploads - the first step here would be to actually
> get developer
> access to http://docs.jboss.org via ssh or similar. Unfortunately, that's
> not in place yet.
>
> --Hardy
>
>
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:13:36 -0300, Sanne Grinovero
> <sanne.grinovero at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> I like http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/project/version
>> most, as I guess I could browse available versions at
>> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/project/
>> and see which modules do exist under http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/
>>
>> and so I'd vote for http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/search/3.2.0-BETA1
>> but have no strong feelings about it, just my 2c.
>>
>> About the docs, I was not thinking about the "trunk" releases of docs,
>> but the beta releases would be usefull; btw so you beta test the full
>> release cycle and maybe automate the documentation upload steps in
>> future.
>>
>> 2010/3/5 Emmanuel Bernard<emmanuel at hibernate.org>:
>>> That reminds me, I don't think we ever settled on the doc scheme
>>> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/project
>>> vs
>>> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/project/version
>>>
>>> On 5 mars 2010, at 11:00, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> They have never been published AFAIK, we tend to not publish docs on
>>>> non final. They are bundled in the distro though.
>>>>
>>>> We could change that provided we think it's useful and define some
>>>> publication scheme:
>>>> - http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/search/x.y.z for stable versions
>>>> - http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/search/trunk for the latest non
>>>> final version
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> What I personally don't love with this approach is that google know
>>>> nothing about stable versus trunk works and don't favorite one over
>>>> the other.
>>>>
>>>> On 5 mars 2010, at 10:51, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yes we're missing the docs of 3.2-beta
>>>>> There are questions on programmatic mapping API for example
>>>>> https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1003036
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanne
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/3/5 Emmanuel Bernard<emmanuel at hibernate.org>:
>>>>>> The docs lives in
>>>>>> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/search/reference/en/html_single/
>>>>>> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/search/reference/en/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the link is here https://www.hibernate.org/5.html#A21
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 mars 2010, at 10:26, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I am seeing an increasing rate of questions on the Search forum
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> well documented stuff;
>>>>>>> I just noticed that I can't point them to the documentation is it's
>>>>>>> not there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could edit the wiki myself to add some URL, but I can't find out
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> missing link either as it's all redirecting now to jboss.org,
>>>>>>> and it appears to be missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> could someone look into this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Sanne
>
>
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