[hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

[Paul Benedict]

I think uber jars are never a good idea. You get everything and
developers don't care to find out what features they want or don't
want.

As for Maven, have you considered profiles? If developers could
activate them, there would be pre-built dependencies (like for c3p0).
I find this better than Ivy.

Paul

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> Basically this comes down to whether we want to continue to provide an uber-
> jar of all Hibernate classes.
>
> Currently we do this for the release bundles as hibernate3.jar
>
> Do we want to continue this practice into 4.x?  If we are going to do it, then
> I think we should be consistent and also provide the same through the Maven
> repository.  So to me either:
> 1) Provide option for uber-jar both in release bundles and in JBoss Maven
> repository (as separate artifactId)
> 2) Completely stop providing the uber-jar option.
>
> Have also been thinking about whether it makes sense to provide "guidance" on
> different base setups.  This is mostly unrelated to the discussion above, but
> there is a bearing.  Mostly people want the uber-jar because they find it
> easier then naming 3 jars to get hibernate+c3p0 up and running (for example).
> But if we had a way for them to do this easier maybe it lessens the need for
> the uber-jar even more.  Initially for "guidance" I was thinking ivy
> configurations since I think ivy is available pretty ubiquitously (can't you
> even use ivy from maven?); plus the fact that you can name custom
> configurations and mix them together make it much more flexible and
> simultaneously much less verbose than poms for this purpose.   So in their
> projects, instead of depending on "hibernate" they could depend on the ivy
> configuration "hiberate+c3p0".
>
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