[hibernate-dev] Hibernate 4 and the hibernate3.jar file in release bundle

[Steve Ebersole]

Should have given you the link for moving to Gradle... 
http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-5616

That one in particular has been discussed both here as well as IRC for close 
to 6 months.  In retrospect I guess the move to Git might have been a surprise 
outside of the IRC crowd and for that I apologize.  On the other hand the dev 
IRC channel is open... :)


On Sunday, October 10, 2010 01:38:37 pm Steve Ebersole wrote:
> On Sunday, October 10, 2010 01:25:38 pm Paul Benedict wrote:
> > I think uber jars are never a good idea. You get everything and
> > developers don't care to find out what features they want or don't
> > want.
> 
> Personally I agree 100% there.  Maybe even 10000000000% ;)
> 
> > As for Maven, have you considered profiles? If developers could
> > activate them, there would be pre-built dependencies (like for c3p0).
> > I find this better than Ivy.
> 
> Well couple of things there.  First, these would need to be profiles in
> their poms.  AFAIK you cannot "invoke" profiles in poms of dependencies. 
> This however is completely possible in Ivy, which is why I stated I
> thought it would be the more flexible way to go.
> 
> Also, Hibernate 4 will not be built with Maven.  I am taking the
> opportunity to also move to Gradle which I have wanted to do for quite
> some time.  Of course if you say there is a way to do what I said above I
> thought was not possible with Maven and "show me the light" we could make
> the generated poms reflect these profiles.
> 
> As far as I know, the only way to do what you suggest with Maven would be
> for us to develop an archetype.  The problem with these imho is that you
> rarely are developing a "hibernate application"; more usually you are
> developing a "web application", within which you are using hibernate.  So
> you need to decide up front which archetype you want to use.  Its just
> very inflexible.

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