[hibernate-dev] http://www.hibernatespatial.org/

[Steve Ebersole]

The User Guide will definitely need some updates for 5.2, but none of my
changed so far have touched User Guide sources.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:25 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> On 17 April 2016 at 19:43, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. I'm going to integrate it next week after the
> > Session->EntityFactory merge.
>
> Best to double-check with Steve, but I believe updates to the user
> guide might not need to wait for his refactoring work to be completed?
>
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Vlad,
> >>
> >> I've created a PR (#1334) that contains a number of corrections and
> >> additions for the User Guide.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Karel
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Vlad,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for doing this already. It’s a good starting point. I’ll
> suggest a
> >>> number of changes using a PR on the asciidoc and unit test sources in
> the
> >>> coming weeks.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Karel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi Karel,
> >>> >
> >>> > I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User
> >>> Guide.
> >>> > I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and
> >>> changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5.
> >>> >
> >>> > You can build the User Guide as follows:
> >>> >
> >>> > $ cd documentation
> >>> > $ gradle rUG
> >>> > $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html
> >>> >
> >>> > Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should
> add.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Vlad
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea <
> mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide.
> >>> > I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of
> >>> that.
> >>> >
> >>> > All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things
> >>> will change.
> >>> > I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some
> >>> steps to build the User Guide.
> >>> > After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it
> further.
> >>> >
> >>> > Vlad
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi Vlad,
> >>> >
> >>> > I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week
> of
> >>> March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up.
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Karel
> >>> >
> >>> > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi Karel,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I
> have
> >>> just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review.
> >>> > > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's
> good
> >>> to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL
> native
> >>> one.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > What do you think of this?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Vlad
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > HI all,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial
> mailing
> >>> list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me
> >>> yesterday. I will investigate shortly.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate
> 5.
> >>> I will put up a message for this on the site.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have
> >>> the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated
> into
> >>> the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the
> hibernatespatial.org
> >>> URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions
> (3.x
> >>> and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older
> versions
> >>> of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the
> spatial
> >>> tutorial from the hibernate.org website.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they
> will
> >>> be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on
> the
> >>> usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions
> about
> >>> Spatial on the hibernate forums?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the
> >>> Hibernate Spatial chapter?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Regards,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Karel
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new
> User
> >>> Guide so
> >>> > > > we can complete the migration.
> >>> > > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the
> current
> >>> User
> >>> > > > Guide.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Vlad
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto <
> >>> daltodavide at gmail.com>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but
> none
> >>> of his
> >>> > > >> messages
> >>> > > >> appeared in the archive.
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <
> >>> steve at hibernate.org>
> >>> > > >> wrote:
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the
> >>> hibernate-spatial
> >>> > > >> mailing
> >>> > > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want
> >>> deal with
> >>> > > >>> these things moving forward.  For example, the
> >>> > > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running
> >>> and really
> >>> > > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into
> >>> Hibernate
> >>> > > >> proper
> >>> > > >>> was completed.  What do you want to have happen with that
> >>> website/URL?
> >>> > > >>>
> >>> > > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have
> happen?
> >>> It
> >>> > > >> seems
> >>> > > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as
> >>> opposed
> >>> > > >> to a
> >>> > > >>> dev mailing list?  If so, Hibernate does not really do user
> >>> mailing
> >>> > > >> lists.
> >>> > > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so
> >>> there is
> >>> > > >> not a
> >>> > > >>> straight "migration".  You can obviously keep the
> >>> hibernate-spatial
> >>> > > >> mailing
> >>> > > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help
> users
> >>> who are
> >>> > > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on
> >>> what you
> >>> > > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/.
> >>> > > >>>
> >>> > > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure?
> >>> > > >>>
> >>> > > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was
> >>> complaining about
> >>> > > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list?
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