[hibernate-dev] http://www.hibernatespatial.org/

Vlad Mihalcea mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 11:40:44 EDT 2016 

I'm going to integrate it in master, 5.1, and 5.0 since theHibernate
Spatial module is the same for all three, right?

Vlad

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:

> The User Guide will definitely need some updates for 5.2, but none of my
> changed so far have touched User Guide sources.
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:25 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 17 April 2016 at 19:43, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the update. I'm going to integrate it next week after the
>> > Session->EntityFactory merge.
>>
>> Best to double-check with Steve, but I believe updates to the user
>> guide might not need to wait for his refactoring work to be completed?
>>
>> >
>> > Vlad
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Vlad,
>> >>
>> >> I've created a PR (#1334) that contains a number of corrections and
>> >> additions for the User Guide.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Karel
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Vlad,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for doing this already. It’s a good starting point. I’ll
>> suggest a
>> >>> number of changes using a PR on the asciidoc and unit test sources in
>> the
>> >>> coming weeks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Karel
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hi Karel,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User
>> >>> Guide.
>> >>> > I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and
>> >>> changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You can build the User Guide as follows:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > $ cd documentation
>> >>> > $ gradle rUG
>> >>> > $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should
>> add.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> > Vlad
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea <
>> mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide.
>> >>> > I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of
>> >>> that.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things
>> >>> will change.
>> >>> > I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some
>> >>> steps to build the User Guide.
>> >>> > After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it
>> further.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Vlad
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi Vlad,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week
>> of
>> >>> March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Karel
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Hi Karel,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I
>> have
>> >>> just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review.
>> >>> > > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's
>> good
>> >>> to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL
>> native
>> >>> one.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > What do you think of this?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Vlad
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel at geovise.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > > HI all,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial
>> mailing
>> >>> list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me
>> >>> yesterday. I will investigate shortly.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate
>> 5.
>> >>> I will put up a message for this on the site.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have
>> >>> the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated
>> into
>> >>> the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the
>> hibernatespatial.org
>> >>> URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older
>> versions (3.x
>> >>> and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older
>> versions
>> >>> of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the
>> spatial
>> >>> tutorial from the hibernate.org website.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they
>> will
>> >>> be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on
>> the
>> >>> usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions
>> about
>> >>> Spatial on the hibernate forums?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the
>> >>> Hibernate Spatial chapter?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Regards,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Karel
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <
>> mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new
>> User
>> >>> Guide so
>> >>> > > > we can complete the migration.
>> >>> > > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the
>> current
>> >>> User
>> >>> > > > Guide.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Vlad
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto <
>> >>> daltodavide at gmail.com>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but
>> none
>> >>> of his
>> >>> > > >> messages
>> >>> > > >> appeared in the archive.
>> >>> > > >>
>> >>> > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <
>> >>> steve at hibernate.org>
>> >>> > > >> wrote:
>> >>> > > >>
>> >>> > > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the
>> >>> hibernate-spatial
>> >>> > > >> mailing
>> >>> > > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want
>> >>> deal with
>> >>> > > >>> these things moving forward.  For example, the
>> >>> > > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running
>> >>> and really
>> >>> > > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into
>> >>> Hibernate
>> >>> > > >> proper
>> >>> > > >>> was completed.  What do you want to have happen with that
>> >>> website/URL?
>> >>> > > >>>
>> >>> > > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have
>> happen?
>> >>> It
>> >>> > > >> seems
>> >>> > > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as
>> >>> opposed
>> >>> > > >> to a
>> >>> > > >>> dev mailing list?  If so, Hibernate does not really do user
>> >>> mailing
>> >>> > > >> lists.
>> >>> > > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so
>> >>> there is
>> >>> > > >> not a
>> >>> > > >>> straight "migration".  You can obviously keep the
>> >>> hibernate-spatial
>> >>> > > >> mailing
>> >>> > > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help
>> users
>> >>> who are
>> >>> > > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends
>> on
>> >>> what you
>> >>> > > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/.
>> >>> > > >>>
>> >>> > > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure?
>> >>> > > >>>
>> >>> > > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was
>> >>> complaining about
>> >>> > > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list?
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