[hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM modules for Wildfly 11

[Sanne Grinovero]

On 29 August 2017 at 20:28, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> Then I think we should update 5.2 as well, but that creates an interesting
> concern in that the published artifact name would change if I understand
> correctly because it would change the artifact's classifier from
> `wildfly-10-dist` to `wildfly-11-dist`.  Things that refer to this artifact
> as a dependency would no longer work.

Sorry but I'm not understanding. To be clear: I only patched master,
so I already updated 5.2 and yes I can confirm that the classifier
changed accordingly.

I don't see this as a big deal for users, I updated the ORM
documentation accordingly to mention the new classifier. IMO changing
target appserver is not expected to be "as automatic" as changing some
dependencies, and it's unlikely to not be noticed so having to change
the classifier shouldn't be a big deal.

It is possible that some users would feel left down by us no longer
"supporting" WildFly 10 but I thought we were on the same page about
that?

Regarding ORM 5.1: there's no need, as WildFly already includes it so
why would someone want to use our 5.1 modules when they already have
the same version out of the box.
I can see how they potentially might want subsequent micros `5.1.x+1`
but we need to draw a line somewhere: if it's really critical a new
WildFly `11.0+0.1` should appear.

Thanks,
Sanne

>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:05 AM Gail Badner <gbadner at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hibernate ORM 5.1.x is in WF 11.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What version of Hibernate does WF 11 include?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, 5:18 PM Gail Badner <gbadner at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This should be backported to 5.1 as well, shouldn't it?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Sanne!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:06 PM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Thanks Steve!
>>>>> > for reference JIRA and PR:
>>>>> >  - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-11950
>>>>> >  - https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/1994
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I also just noticed that supporting only the latest is consistent
>>>>> > with
>>>>> > the expectations we set in the documentation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Sanne
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 27 August 2017 at 17:06, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > I personally agree that we should only be maintaining a single
>>>>> > > slice of
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > version matrix here... a given ORM version against the latest
>>>>> > > Wildfly
>>>>> > > version.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017, 7:31 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Hi all,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> WildFly 11 is coming: the version 11.0.0.CR1 was just released
>>>>> > >> last
>>>>> > week.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> The jipijapa integration point is slightly different.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> It shouldn't be hard to patch the current ORM build for this, but
>>>>> > >> I'm
>>>>> > >> wondering if we just want to update the target WF version, or
>>>>> > >> start
>>>>> > >> producing sets for both WildFly 10 and WildFly 11 ?
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Personally as soon as we can move all integration tests to WildFly
>>>>> > >> 11,
>>>>> > >> I won't be interested in maintaining WF10 compatibility for the
>>>>> > >> 5.2
>>>>> > >> branch of Hibernate ORM (and related projects) so I'd be inclined
>>>>> > >> to
>>>>> > >> simply update the WF version.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> The motivations:
>>>>> > >>  - people are asking already for ORM modulesets for WF11
>>>>> > >>  - these modules missing are a blocker for producing modulests for
>>>>> > >> out
>>>>> > >> other projects, e.g. Hibernate Search
>>>>> > >>  - people are asking for latest Hibernate Search modulesets for
>>>>> > >> WF11 as
>>>>> > >> well..
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I'd treat this with urgency: while I don't expect any
>>>>> > >> compatibility
>>>>> > >> issue with WF11 it would be nice to be able to test it all before
>>>>> > >> it's
>>>>> > >> released as .Final
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>> > >> Sanne
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