[hibernate-dev] [Search and more] What is new in a give release

Marko Bekhta marko.prykladna at gmail.com
Wed Sep 6 03:55:52 EDT 2017


Hi Emmanuel,

I did some updates to HV roadmap with this PR [1]. There's also some
updates to
HV contribute page. Maybe somebody could check those changes and if needed
add
more to what is present, if what is already there is fine.

Have a nice day,
Marko

[1] https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate.org/pull/123.

2017-09-06 9:37 GMT+02:00 Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org>:

> Hey,
>
> About Search, true, the information is somewhat hidden in many blog posts.
> I'm not sure the roadmap is the right place, though, since we probably want
> the format to be different for past and future releases: information for
> past releases is typically more precise and more verbose, with code
> examples and so on. See for instance this blog post:
> http://in.relation.to/
> 2017/06/13/hibernate-search-5-8-0-Beta3/ . I'm afraid the future roadmap
> would be drowned in the past releases.
>
> I was thinking about another problem: we don't have a compatibility matrix.
> We only have a few dependencies (mainly ORM and Lucene), but it's really
> hard to know which versions of the dependencies to use with which version
> of Search, and users frequently use the wrong versions.
> With that in mind, I would rather see a "Versions" page, with a summary at
> the top (including a one-liner for each minor and the compatibilty matrix),
> and one section for each minor (with anchors, so that we can link to them
> from other pages such as the downloads). Or maybe even one page for the
> detail of each minor, if there's too much text.
> I think it would make sense to have all that information gathered in a
> single place, because all of that is needed for users to pick the version
> they want: they need to know the benefits of upgrading (features) but also
> the constraints (compatibility matrix).
> Maybe I can give it a try at the end of the week?
>
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate NoORM Team
> yoann at hibernate.org
>
> On 6 September 2017 at 09:21, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I was trying to answer the following question, what is roughly new
> between
> > 5.6, 5.7 and 5.8 (minor releases)?
> >
> > My first reflex was to go to http://hibernate.org/search/downloads/ <
> > http://hibernate.org/search/downloads/> to read about the onliner per
> > release. Except it’s a onliner per micro release and “minor adjustments”
> > for 5.6.3.Final gave me literally no info whatsoever.
> >
> > My second reflex was to go to http://hibernate.org/search/roadmap/ <
> > http://hibernate.org/search/roadmap/> to find a historical entry about
> > older versions and the main changes in bullet points. No luck. It only
> > talks about the future.
> >
> > My third reflex was to go to http://in.relation.to/hibernate-search/ <
> > http://in.relation.to/hibernate-search/> I ended up giving up midway
> page
> > 2 of the list of blog entries. It’s a mix of simultaneous parallel
> releases
> > with what’s new since the last CR or the last micro kind of reports and
> > gave up in dismay at the energy I would have to spend to extract what’s
> new
> > for a full minor release.
> >
> > I did exaggerate a bit the third point but I did give up. We need
> > somewhere a summary page of what’s new per minor releases. I think the
> > roadmap page could be the host.
> > Likewise, we might need a oneliner entry in the download section (per
> > release) that points to this minor release summary.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Speaking of roadmap:
> > - HV roadmap is massively out of date
> > - OGM is lying a bit on the future but at least has the past summary I
> was
> > talking about
> > - Search has a good future roadmap but no past
> >
> > Emmanuek
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