[hibernate-dev] [Search and more] What is new in a give release

[Guillaume Smet]

@Marko,

Yes, I plan to review them this week and add additional things to it!

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Marko Bekhta <marko.prykladna at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> I did some updates to HV roadmap with this PR [1]. There's also some
> updates to
> HV contribute page. Maybe somebody could check those changes and if needed
> add
> more to what is present, if what is already there is fine.
>
> Have a nice day,
> Marko
>
> [1] https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate.org/pull/123.
>
> 2017-09-06 9:37 GMT+02:00 Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org>:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > About Search, true, the information is somewhat hidden in many blog
> posts.
> > I'm not sure the roadmap is the right place, though, since we probably
> want
> > the format to be different for past and future releases: information for
> > past releases is typically more precise and more verbose, with code
> > examples and so on. See for instance this blog post:
> > http://in.relation.to/
> > 2017/06/13/hibernate-search-5-8-0-Beta3/ . I'm afraid the future roadmap
> > would be drowned in the past releases.
> >
> > I was thinking about another problem: we don't have a compatibility
> matrix.
> > We only have a few dependencies (mainly ORM and Lucene), but it's really
> > hard to know which versions of the dependencies to use with which version
> > of Search, and users frequently use the wrong versions.
> > With that in mind, I would rather see a "Versions" page, with a summary
> at
> > the top (including a one-liner for each minor and the compatibilty
> matrix),
> > and one section for each minor (with anchors, so that we can link to them
> > from other pages such as the downloads). Or maybe even one page for the
> > detail of each minor, if there's too much text.
> > I think it would make sense to have all that information gathered in a
> > single place, because all of that is needed for users to pick the version
> > they want: they need to know the benefits of upgrading (features) but
> also
> > the constraints (compatibility matrix).
> > Maybe I can give it a try at the end of the week?
> >
> >
> > Yoann Rodière
> > Hibernate NoORM Team
> > yoann at hibernate.org
> >
> > On 6 September 2017 at 09:21, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I was trying to answer the following question, what is roughly new
> > between
> > > 5.6, 5.7 and 5.8 (minor releases)?
> > >
> > > My first reflex was to go to http://hibernate.org/search/downloads/ <
> > > http://hibernate.org/search/downloads/> to read about the onliner per
> > > release. Except it’s a onliner per micro release and “minor
> adjustments”
> > > for 5.6.3.Final gave me literally no info whatsoever.
> > >
> > > My second reflex was to go to http://hibernate.org/search/roadmap/ <
> > > http://hibernate.org/search/roadmap/> to find a historical entry about
> > > older versions and the main changes in bullet points. No luck. It only
> > > talks about the future.
> > >
> > > My third reflex was to go to http://in.relation.to/hibernate-search/ <
> > > http://in.relation.to/hibernate-search/> I ended up giving up midway
> > page
> > > 2 of the list of blog entries. It’s a mix of simultaneous parallel
> > releases
> > > with what’s new since the last CR or the last micro kind of reports and
> > > gave up in dismay at the energy I would have to spend to extract what’s
> > new
> > > for a full minor release.
> > >
> > > I did exaggerate a bit the third point but I did give up. We need
> > > somewhere a summary page of what’s new per minor releases. I think the
> > > roadmap page could be the host.
> > > Likewise, we might need a oneliner entry in the download section (per
> > > release) that points to this minor release summary.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Speaking of roadmap:
> > > - HV roadmap is massively out of date
> > > - OGM is lying a bit on the future but at least has the past summary I
> > was
> > > talking about
> > > - Search has a good future roadmap but no past
> > >
> > > Emmanuek
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