[hibernate-dev] [Search and more] What is new in a give release

[Yoann Rodiere]

Ok, this will never end... It was good to merge less than 24h ago and now
you're arguing against the very point of this work: provide users with more
information regarding each series, so that they know what's new. (see the
first email by Emmanuel)

Please make concrete, exhaustive proposals. From what I understand, your
concerns could be addressed with only simple changes to the menu (hide
older series, add an "archived series" entry), but I don't know what to
think anymore.


Yoann Rodière
Hibernate NoORM Team
yoann at hibernate.org

On 22 September 2017 at 16:49, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> After some chats and a night of sleep on this, I think we need to stop
> obsessing about guiding people into the choice among multiple minor
> versions: it's hard enough that they have to pick a project.
>
> We need to encourage people to use the latest versions and we need to
> send a clear, strong message about this, no middle ground fiddling
> with names and definitions
>
> We can give them a choice between using the latest stable vs the
> latest development, but beyond this we're giving too much choice.
>
> Yet I do believe we should make it "not-hard" for people looking for
> details of other recent versions; could we consider them all
> "archived" ? Some drop downs on key areas like the ones in ORM today
> would still be welcome to make it easy to find - but let's remove the
> version choice from the "primary navigation path".
>
> There are some exceptional cases coming to mind which would need some
> mitigation; for example the fact that OGM won't work with the latest
> Search and ORM releases!
> But there are better solutions than to pollute the website experience
> by making the matching versions too visible, for example bundle it
> with OGM, link to the right versions from the OGM pages, or have the
> modules eventually pull-in the required dependencies, etc...
> (technical details irrelevant in this context).
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
>
>
>
> On 22 September 2017 at 12:21, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.smet at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> *IF* you are willing to improve a minor point: I didn't expect the
> >> "Releases" menu to be expanded when not being in any of these
> >> sections.
> >
> >
> > Let's keep that one for another time.
> >
> >>
> >> Related: I wouldn't highlight both the current release and the
> >> "Releases" label, the shading looks odd and misaligned.
> >
> >
> > Yoann fixed it.
> >
> > Could we push that version to production and iterate after if required?
> >
> > It's a tad better than what we have now and I don't see a reason to
> delay it
> > more.
> >
> > Emmanuel?
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume
> >
>