[hibernate-dev] [Search and more] What is new in a give release
Steve Ebersole
steve at hibernate.org
Fri Sep 22 12:00:13 EDT 2017
I think he is saying what I was saying... make the nav links point to the
latest version, but with easy nav from there to list of all
series/family/whatever
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:25 AM Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org> wrote:
> Ok, this will never end... It was good to merge less than 24h ago and now
> you're arguing against the very point of this work: provide users with more
> information regarding each series, so that they know what's new. (see the
> first email by Emmanuel)
>
> Please make concrete, exhaustive proposals. From what I understand, your
> concerns could be addressed with only simple changes to the menu (hide
> older series, add an "archived series" entry), but I don't know what to
> think anymore.
>
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate NoORM Team
> yoann at hibernate.org
>
> On 22 September 2017 at 16:49, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
> > After some chats and a night of sleep on this, I think we need to stop
> > obsessing about guiding people into the choice among multiple minor
> > versions: it's hard enough that they have to pick a project.
> >
> > We need to encourage people to use the latest versions and we need to
> > send a clear, strong message about this, no middle ground fiddling
> > with names and definitions
> >
> > We can give them a choice between using the latest stable vs the
> > latest development, but beyond this we're giving too much choice.
> >
> > Yet I do believe we should make it "not-hard" for people looking for
> > details of other recent versions; could we consider them all
> > "archived" ? Some drop downs on key areas like the ones in ORM today
> > would still be welcome to make it easy to find - but let's remove the
> > version choice from the "primary navigation path".
> >
> > There are some exceptional cases coming to mind which would need some
> > mitigation; for example the fact that OGM won't work with the latest
> > Search and ORM releases!
> > But there are better solutions than to pollute the website experience
> > by making the matching versions too visible, for example bundle it
> > with OGM, link to the right versions from the OGM pages, or have the
> > modules eventually pull-in the required dependencies, etc...
> > (technical details irrelevant in this context).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sanne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 September 2017 at 12:21, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.smet at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *IF* you are willing to improve a minor point: I didn't expect the
> > >> "Releases" menu to be expanded when not being in any of these
> > >> sections.
> > >
> > >
> > > Let's keep that one for another time.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Related: I wouldn't highlight both the current release and the
> > >> "Releases" label, the shading looks odd and misaligned.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yoann fixed it.
> > >
> > > Could we push that version to production and iterate after if required?
> > >
> > > It's a tad better than what we have now and I don't see a reason to
> > delay it
> > > more.
> > >
> > > Emmanuel?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> >
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