[hibernate-dev] Stride

Steve Ebersole steve at hibernate.org
Mon Jul 30 10:38:34 EDT 2018


I am not asking about a "supart".  Think about topics that we cross post to
hibernate-dev and willdfly-dev or hibernate-dev and infinispan-dev... so
the discussion *simultaneously* spans multiple topics/audiences.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:27 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
wrote:

> Same as in an email thread, you change the topic for a subpart of your
> conversation. You can opt to fork the topic name at a
> given point in time retroactively (which you don't get for emails).
>
> On Mon 18-07-30  9:10, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> >In practice, what happens when a discussion spans multiple topics?
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:43 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri 18-07-27 14:38, Guillaume Smet wrote:
> >> >On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:31 PM Emmanuel Bernard <
> emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I like Zulip a lot. I've been using it extensively and the notion of
> >> >> topic (like a email subjet) is a big +1 for me and for any more
> casual
> >> >> lurker. Also it reduces the proliferation of one off/single subject
> >> >> channel that a lurker always miss in tools like Slack.
> >> >>
> >> >> Granted Zulip topics are a bit offsetting for the first 5 posts. And
> yes
> >> >> their mobile client is really bad. But the desktop client is really
> >> >> nice.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I'm not really excited about topics. We might need a topic once a
> month,
> >> >maybe less, when we start a big discussion on a subject (and even so,
> >> >there's usually only one discussion in parallel).
> >>
> >> If you want to accept the Hibernate community in this and it catches up,
> >> then you will have parallel discussions. Join the Infinispan one for an
> >> example.
> >>
> >> Also even if one conversation happens at a given time, it is a very good
> >> organiser for someone that is catching up on subject after the actual
> >> conversation happened.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >The rest of the time, we just share in the channel.
> >> >
> >> >If they were optional, that would do but they are not and you always
> need
> >> 2
> >> >clicks to share (e.g. go to the right stream, then either choose a
> topic
> >> or
> >> >create new topic), whereas you're at most one click away on HipChat.
> For
> >> >our usage I find it a bit suboptimal.
> >> >
> >> >I use the HipChat mobile client from time to time, not sure how bad
> >> Zulip's
> >> >is. Can you at least follow the streams and post messages?
> >> >
> >> >Anyway, it's more a -0 than a -1 for Zulip.
> >> >
> >> >Never used Slack.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Guillaume
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