[hibernate-dev] Stride

[Sanne Grinovero]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 16:39, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
>
> I am not asking about a "supart".  Think about topics that we cross post to
> hibernate-dev and willdfly-dev or hibernate-dev and infinispan-dev... so
> the discussion *simultaneously* spans multiple topics/audiences.

In zulip what you write goes to one and only one topic.

It's similar to the "room" concept of HipChat, except you can also opt
to decide to see all streams as once (when reading), if you whish to
deactive the "per-topic filter".

You don't write in this mode but it's useful to keep an eye on general activity.

Please try it out?

>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:27 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Same as in an email thread, you change the topic for a subpart of your
> > conversation. You can opt to fork the topic name at a
> > given point in time retroactively (which you don't get for emails).
> >
> > On Mon 18-07-30  9:10, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> > >In practice, what happens when a discussion spans multiple topics?
> > >
> > >
> > >On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:43 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri 18-07-27 14:38, Guillaume Smet wrote:
> > >> >On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:31 PM Emmanuel Bernard <
> > emmanuel at hibernate.org>
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I like Zulip a lot. I've been using it extensively and the notion of
> > >> >> topic (like a email subjet) is a big +1 for me and for any more
> > casual
> > >> >> lurker. Also it reduces the proliferation of one off/single subject
> > >> >> channel that a lurker always miss in tools like Slack.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Granted Zulip topics are a bit offsetting for the first 5 posts. And
> > yes
> > >> >> their mobile client is really bad. But the desktop client is really
> > >> >> nice.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm not really excited about topics. We might need a topic once a
> > month,
> > >> >maybe less, when we start a big discussion on a subject (and even so,
> > >> >there's usually only one discussion in parallel).
> > >>
> > >> If you want to accept the Hibernate community in this and it catches up,
> > >> then you will have parallel discussions. Join the Infinispan one for an
> > >> example.
> > >>
> > >> Also even if one conversation happens at a given time, it is a very good
> > >> organiser for someone that is catching up on subject after the actual
> > >> conversation happened.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >The rest of the time, we just share in the channel.
> > >> >
> > >> >If they were optional, that would do but they are not and you always
> > need
> > >> 2
> > >> >clicks to share (e.g. go to the right stream, then either choose a
> > topic
> > >> or
> > >> >create new topic), whereas you're at most one click away on HipChat.
> > For
> > >> >our usage I find it a bit suboptimal.
> > >> >
> > >> >I use the HipChat mobile client from time to time, not sure how bad
> > >> Zulip's
> > >> >is. Can you at least follow the streams and post messages?
> > >> >
> > >> >Anyway, it's more a -0 than a -1 for Zulip.
> > >> >
> > >> >Never used Slack.
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> >Guillaume
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